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Old 10-26-2021, 07:15 AM
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I received one two days after I received my indoc date. They wanted clarification on a speeding ticket. Haven’t heard anything since.


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how long from when you submitted your info to getting an indoc date?
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Old 10-26-2021, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NYCaviator View Post
how long from when you submitted your info to getting an indoc date?

4-5 weeks from submitting to getting a date. I had a hiccup as well. The day all my buddies received their class date I got a call saying they didn’t have my drivers license info. The didn’t like my ID being on a Mil extension either so I went and got a new one same day. (ID showed expired but being active duty still it was valid til I retire)

8 weeks exactly CJO to indoc. Not sure if it was the slowdown of the background checks or if it was because I had 8 weeks listed. A few of the guys I interviewed with started at 6 weeks.


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Old 10-26-2021, 08:28 AM
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This thread has got me thinking. Is it possible to do TOO much interview prep? Can it get to the point where you get so many opinions that you just become a canned robot?
Delta likes to hire confident, self-assured people. Not cocky, just comfortable in who they are and what they’ve done. I think paid prep is important if you are overly nervous or lacking self-confidence. Be honest with yourself about it, maybe get some second opinions, and hire paid prep if necessary. The flip side applies as well. If you come off as a s##t-don’t-stink know-it-all that’s not good either, and a prep company can help with that.

The hiring team is really good at hiring good people. If you’re one of those, it’s likely you’ll get hired. If you aren’t, they’ll usually spot it at some point and say no. A prep company can help knock the rough edges off and make it go better but they can’t change who you are. I fly with lots of new guys and 95% of them are super dudes - relaxed, knowledgeable, confident and just good people. The other 5% I figure fooled the interview team and slipped through the cracks.

FYI, I did no prep and got hired, but that was last century and I guess I fooled them.
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Old 10-26-2021, 08:38 AM
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The only paid prep I ever did was for SWA back during BK days. I was at a wholly owned regional and needed to get out. I spent $8000 on a 737 type rating and $500 on an in person review and prep. They were basically the only “major” hiring. I didn’t get the job. I eventually went to AirTran and was scheduled to interview with JB but didn’t. Desperation makes choice a luxury. My story worked out fine but the money I spent was for nothing. Just some perspective.
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Old 10-26-2021, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by beernutt View Post
Delta likes to hire confident, self-assured people. Not cocky, just comfortable in who they are and what they’ve done. I think paid prep is important if you are overly nervous or lacking self-confidence. Be honest with yourself about it, maybe get some second opinions, and hire paid prep if necessary. The flip side applies as well. If you come off as a s##t-don’t-stink know-it-all that’s not good either, and a prep company can help with that.

The hiring team is really good at hiring good people. If you’re one of those, it’s likely you’ll get hired. If you aren’t, they’ll usually spot it at some point and say no. A prep company can help knock the rough edges off and make it go better but they can’t change who you are. I fly with lots of new guys and 95% of them are super dudes - relaxed, knowledgeable, confident and just good people. The other 5% I figure fooled the interview team and slipped through the cracks.

FYI, I did no prep and got hired, but that was last century and I guess I fooled them.

I just got hired recently without any prep. I didn’t do an app review or anything. I had a good idea about TMAAT situations that I would use but didn’t build canned answers to anything. In all I thought about how each situation could be handled in a safe manner and still try to make the customer satisfied.


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Old 10-26-2021, 09:49 AM
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There will always be people who get hired without spending $$ on formal prep. Not the point.

To those lurking and applying…. It’s been said before but bears repeating: why would you risk a multimillion dollar career at your #1 choice by not spending a few hundred bucks on prep? You take a risk either way… Can you live with the consequences in seniority (or living in base for your career) by taking a chance by skimping and losing? Or, would you rather spend the dough, get the job comfortably, and risk saying you “wasted money on prep”?

I paid the money “back when” on prep, and felt it was worth every penny. My son will be applying in a few years and I will guarantee he will be prepared professionally, not solely by me and/or the interwebs.
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Old 10-26-2021, 09:53 AM
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Nobody is saying “don’t prep”. The question was ‘is it possible to overprep?’ I think it is possible.

Apologies if it seemed like I was suggesting to not prep at all.
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Old 10-26-2021, 10:27 AM
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What’s the lowest time they are hiring right now? Are they hiring people with 0 121 PIC time?
Yep. Its less common than with it, but many get hired without it. If you meet the published mins, apply.

Also, mil PIC makes 121 PIC redundant anyway.
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Old 10-26-2021, 12:31 PM
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I've done some hiring. I'll chime in to say that too much prep is worse than no prep. The over gouged candidates sound like they are bored and insincere. If you've never had a legacy interview, get some coaching (EC or Cage, but not both, and beware, they are polar opposites in how they coach). Once you've done that for one, you should know what to expect. Just answer the questions honestly and sincerely.
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Originally Posted by beernutt View Post
Nobody is saying “don’t prep”. The question was ‘is it possible to overprep?’ I think it is possible.

Apologies if it seemed like I was suggesting to not prep at all.
I actually agree with most of what you said, and agree that it's possible to overprep and come across as wooden or just too slick.

I was more commenting for the lurkers who may be considering the value of paid prep from the company of one's choice. But it's up to the individual based on thier own conditions. Best of luck to all.
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