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08-15-2021 | 10:34 AM
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So I saw a rotation that I wanted as a greenie and was covered by my standing request. I was never called and they rerouted a guy to do the flights. I can’t remember what the rotation number was so how do you submit it to the union?
08-15-2021 | 10:57 AM
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[QUOTE=Falcon20;3279920]So I saw a rotation that I wanted as a greenie and was covered by my standing request. I was never called and they rerouted a guy to do the flights. I can’t remember what the rotation number was so how do you submit it to the union?
If the rotation was known less than 14 hours before departure it might have been legal to cover with a reroute. The fact they built it as a rotation does not preclude them from doing so. If the rotation was a bid package rotation plug in a flight number for any leg and you can search the bid package. If it was a created rotation it’s going to be a bit harder and will require union help. It is possible that you can pull up the rerouted rotation and the remarks will mention the original rotation number. With that info you can see the rotation history and timeline in Icrew.
If the rotation was known less than 14 hours before departure it might have been legal to cover with a reroute. The fact they built it as a rotation does not preclude them from doing so. If the rotation was a bid package rotation plug in a flight number for any leg and you can search the bid package. If it was a created rotation it’s going to be a bit harder and will require union help. It is possible that you can pull up the rerouted rotation and the remarks will mention the original rotation number. With that info you can see the rotation history and timeline in Icrew.
08-15-2021 | 11:14 AM
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Thanks I was able to find it by plugging rotation numbers in until I found it as it was a created rotation. I don’t know how to get the rotation history in icrew. Any advice?
So I saw a rotation that I wanted as a greenie and was covered by my standing request. I was never called and they rerouted a guy to do the flights. I can’t remember what the rotation number was so how do you submit it to the union?
If the rotation was known less than 14 hours before departure it might have been legal to cover with a reroute. The fact they built it as a rotation does not preclude them from doing so. If the rotation was a bid package rotation plug in a flight number for any leg and you can search the bid package. If it was a created rotation it’s going to be a bit harder and will require union help. It is possible that you can pull up the rerouted rotation and the remarks will mention the original rotation number. With that info you can see the rotation history and timeline in Icrew.
If the rotation was known less than 14 hours before departure it might have been legal to cover with a reroute. The fact they built it as a rotation does not preclude them from doing so. If the rotation was a bid package rotation plug in a flight number for any leg and you can search the bid package. If it was a created rotation it’s going to be a bit harder and will require union help. It is possible that you can pull up the rerouted rotation and the remarks will mention the original rotation number. With that info you can see the rotation history and timeline in Icrew.
08-15-2021 | 11:23 AM
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[QUOTE=Falcon20;3279939]In Icrew go to schedules, open time menu, open time, pilot history. Before clicking pilot history you need to fill out the second data Field. It’s a bit confusing.
08-15-2021 | 11:32 AM
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08-15-2021 | 12:44 PM
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I agree 100%. I know the contract pretty well and catch scheduling assigning illegal rotations on a regular basis. Last month I had 2, and this month I've had 2 so far. Every time I get an illegal rotation, I call scheduling and tell them. 99% of the time they deny it's illegal and come up with some poor reason why it was assigned. I keep pushing and tell them the exact section in the contract it violated. After that, they always agree, and pay me..I think Delta mgmt tells them to initially deny all illegal rotations when a pilot calls, Putting an ALPA rep in scheduling does nothing for Delta pilots except take money out of our pockets..He helps the company occasionally avoid an illegal rotation.
08-15-2021 | 03:18 PM
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One of more common ones that I've seen are deadheads back to base. It has to be on first legal flight. I've seen a lot of rotations where deadhead back is third or fourth illegal flight. Most extreme was a 24 hour layover in CMH before deadheading back to ATL. Due to New York being 3 domiciles, they are required to ground transport you to another airport if it can get you back earlier.
08-15-2021 | 06:51 PM
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