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Old 03-31-2022 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Snookered
(“no paperwork in the file for my trip”) even though the trip has had training indicated for 5-6 days now. I messaged the LCA but no response.
The paperwork they are referencing comes from the OE planner and doesn’t involve the LCA…who can’t do anything for you if scheduling doesn’t have this paperwork. There’s been a rash of missing or misplaced paperwork because reasons. If you have contact info for your fleet’s OE planner, that’s who can create it, or locate it, or explain why they don’t want scheduling to release you.
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Old 03-31-2022 | 09:11 PM
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That’s exactly what I was wondering… If I will get payback days? Another question that has come up is if I’m released at the gate what is the earliest time that I could report for a GS/WS trip? Unfortunately, crew scheduling did not release me last night.
Don’t check in for the flight. At gate if released by Lca you can immediately pick up something. If you check in 10 hrs off required. At least That’s the way it used to work a decade ago last time I had this predicament.
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Old 04-01-2022 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by nene
Don’t check in for the flight. At gate if released by Lca you can immediately pick up something. If you check in 10 hrs off required. At least That’s the way it used to work a decade ago last time I had this predicament.

My understanding is whether you actually check in or not, doesn't matter. Once you hit signin time without being released, you need 10 hr rest. You need to be released prior to your signin time.
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Old 04-01-2022 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
My understanding is whether you actually check in or not, doesn't matter. Once you hit signin time without being released, you need 10 hr rest. You need to be released prior to your signin time.
This is the most correct answer. Signing in does nothing for 117. The only thing that matters is scheduled report.
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Old 04-01-2022 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Snookered
Thats what I was wondering as well, I’ll make a post when. I find out how it’s handled. Secondary question has come up now though … Report time for the trip is late this evening 1900L and I did not get released from the rotation by CS last night as I had hoped (“no paperwork in the file for my trip”) even though the trip has had training indicated for 5-6 days now. I messaged the LCA but no response. If I get released at the gate, what would be the earliest report for a GS/WS assuming I’m fortunate enough to pick up something out of Open Time? Would I need 10 hours of rest?

For anyone interested, Here is how it played out: I ran into the LCA in the lounge about 20 minutes prior to sign-in and he immediately had me go-ahead and call CS to be released. After 20 minutes on hold (I walked with LCA to the gate during this time) the scheduler answered and said they would need to speak to LCA in person to authorize my release. So I handed my phone over for the Captain so he could take care of that. I never actually signed in for the trip. Afterwards, I told him thanks and headed back to the lounge. When I got back to the lounge I checked ICrew and it showed “23G5” on my schedule for the rotation on March 31 and the 3 spillover days in Apr. Timecard showed same code with the appropriate pay and credit for March 31 and the spillover days.

I headed back to the parking lot and by the time I started driving I got a call notifying me of a 3-day reserve rotation starting on 1 APR. Looking back at the daily coverage for the March 31st, had I been released the night before, I would have gotten a GS …

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Old 04-01-2022 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
My understanding is whether you actually check in or not, doesn't matter. Once you hit signin time without being released, you need 10 hr rest. You need to be released prior to your signin time.
I think your report is binding (unless another legal rest is given) but theoretically you could pick something up without another rest period as long as your original report (for which you had your prospective rest for) would still be binding. So original report at noon, you can pick up something at 4pm but your duty day would still start at noon.
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Old 04-01-2022 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
I think your report is binding (unless another legal rest is given) but theoretically you could pick something up without another rest period as long as your original report (for which you had your prospective rest for) would still be binding. So original report at noon, you can pick up something at 4pm but your duty day would still start at noon.
If you are "released" as a lineholder, you immediately enter rest. If you are released while in rest, you never exit rest. If you are released after your show, you exited rest for however many minutes so you would not be able to certify rest until 10 hours after being released.
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Old 04-01-2022 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Snookered
For anyone interested, Here is how it played out: I ran into the LCA in the lounge about 20 minutes prior to sign-in and he immediately had me go-ahead and call CS to be released. After 20 minutes on hold (I walked with LCA to the gate during this time) the scheduler answered and said they would need to speak to LCA in person to authorize my release. So I handed my phone over for the Captain so he could take care of that. I never actually signed in for the trip. Afterwards, I told him thanks and headed back to the lounge. When I got back to the lounge I checked ICrew and it showed “23G5” on my schedule for the rotation on March 31 and the 3 spillover days in Apr. Timecard showed same code with the appropriate pay and credit for March 31 and the spillover days.

I headed back to the parking lot and by the time I started driving I got a call notifying me of a 3-day reserve rotation starting on 1 APR. Looking back at the daily coverage for the March 31st, had I been released the night before, I would have gotten a GS …

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Generally, trips that carry into a reserve month are a bad deal.
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Old 04-03-2022 | 06:03 AM
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Anybody have insight into why a rotation assigned after a yellow slip would be broken up while on reserve? I got a 4-day at beginning of a 5 day reserve window. While walking down the jet bridge it evaporated into just an out and back, and the rest of it that day and the overnight was assigned to another FO with the last two days in open time. Why the churn with all the craziness this weekend?
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Old 04-03-2022 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by manchild
Anybody have insight into why a rotation assigned after a yellow slip would be broken up while on reserve? I got a 4-day at beginning of a 5 day reserve window. While walking down the jet bridge it evaporated into just an out and back, and the rest of it that day and the overnight was assigned to another FO with the last two days in open time. Why the churn with all the craziness this weekend?
Did you have any FL legs early in the trip? Probably due to the JAX center problems with FL traffic. LOTS of cancelled FL flights the last couple days, and that might have been the computer’s solution to right the ship as a whole.
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