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Old 07-01-2022 | 08:29 AM
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extra sim period for instructor

found it in the ACE app
Thanks for the answer. I'm even more grateful for the source. I completely overlooked that feature of ACE.
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Old 07-03-2022 | 05:09 AM
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Just want to run this by the group...

Due to PB days I have only 1 day of reserve availability. PB---PR/LC---*---X. My release would be 1200 on the LC day. There's a GS for 4 days starting on my PB day. My thought is that day 2 block time would be toward guarantee and day 1,3,4 (and any credit associated with 4) would be above guarantee. I effectively have the LC day off because of the PR portion of the PB ends at 0030 and a 12 hour call out is not possible, however the pay above guarantee won't include day 2. Am I correct? I normally Auto-accept GS and wait for them to call me for acknowledgement so I can negotiate PS for OBGS or ask them to put it on my line temporarily to see what the trip would actually pay me as a RES. I could do that but I would like to know for sure going into the situation. Any ref. is appreciated.
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Old 07-03-2022 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Just want to run this by the group...

Due to PB days I have only 1 day of reserve availability. PB---PR/LC---*---X. My release would be 1200 on the LC day. There's a GS for 4 days starting on my PB day. My thought is that day 2 block time would be toward guarantee and day 1,3,4 (and any credit associated with 4) would be above guarantee. I effectively have the LC day off because of the PR portion of the PB ends at 0030 and a 12 hour call out is not possible, however the pay above guarantee won't include day 2. Am I correct? I normally Auto-accept GS and wait for them to call me for acknowledgement so I can negotiate PS for OBGS or ask them to put it on my line temporarily to see what the trip would actually pay me as a RES. I could do that but I would like to know for sure going into the situation. Any ref. is appreciated.
You should get GS pay for the whole thing, above RES guarantee. If you interrupt the PR day it's the same as interrupting a full X day.
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Old 07-03-2022 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Just want to run this by the group...

Due to PB days I have only 1 day of reserve availability. PB---PR/LC---*---X. My release would be 1200 on the LC day. There's a GS for 4 days starting on my PB day. My thought is that day 2 block time would be toward guarantee and day 1,3,4 (and any credit associated with 4) would be above guarantee. I effectively have the LC day off because of the PR portion of the PB ends at 0030 and a 12 hour call out is not possible, however the pay above guarantee won't include day 2. Am I correct? I normally Auto-accept GS and wait for them to call me for acknowledgement so I can negotiate PS for OBGS or ask them to put it on my line temporarily to see what the trip would actually pay me as a RES. I could do that but I would like to know for sure going into the situation. Any ref. is appreciated.
It depends if the duty period on day 2 touches the PR or not. If it does by a minute then that duty period is pay no credit, otherwise it’s pay and credit.
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Old 07-03-2022 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
You should get GS pay for the whole thing, above RES guarantee. If you interrupt the PR day it's the same as interrupting a full X day.
Thanks for the quick response. I assume 4 more PB days then too.

And taking the logic further: If it were a full LC day and no PR, the above day 1,3,4 pay and 3 PB days then?

I'm seeing some real brain teasers I have never seen before when we were "adequately staffed."
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Old 07-03-2022 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Thanks for the quick response. I assume 4 more PB days then too.

And taking the logic further: If it were a full LC day and no PR, the above day 1,3,4 pay and 3 PB days then?

I'm seeing some real brain teasers I have never seen before when we were "adequately staffed."
Yes as was said above it will depend on if your PR and duty overlap as far as pay. I think you should still be due 4 PB days regardless because a total of 4 X days were interrupted (again, the partial acts like an X day).
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Old 07-03-2022 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Thanks for the quick response. I assume 4 more PB days then too.

And taking the logic further: If it were a full LC day and no PR, the above day 1,3,4 pay and 3 PB days then?

I'm seeing some real brain teasers I have never seen before when we were "adequately staffed."
If you’re on bookface there is a great page that is dedicated to scheduling questions and you get very fast answers. Delta pilots scheduling reference page.
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Old 07-04-2022 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Just want to run this by the group...

Due to PB days I have only 1 day of reserve availability. PB---PR/LC---*---X. My release would be 1200 on the LC day. There's a GS for 4 days starting on my PB day. My thought is that day 2 block time would be toward guarantee and day 1,3,4 (and any credit associated with 4) would be above guarantee. I effectively have the LC day off because of the PR portion of the PB ends at 0030 and a 12 hour call out is not possible, however the pay above guarantee won't include day 2. Am I correct? I normally Auto-accept GS and wait for them to call me for acknowledgement so I can negotiate PS for OBGS or ask them to put it on my line temporarily to see what the trip would actually pay me as a RES. I could do that but I would like to know for sure going into the situation. Any ref. is appreciated.
As Bugman and Tennisguru said, it all depends on the PR end time and FDP report time, converted to pilot base time. However, there is something missing in the analysis. If your PR ends at 0030, it's hard to imagine a scenario where you will get GS pay for a FDP on that PR day. Remember, that PR is NOT 30 minutes long - a PR is just a representation of an 24 hour X-day which begins/ends at other than midnight. Likewise, you would likely not get a PB day in your scenario for said PR day in your scenario. That FDP's block will go towards guarantee.

Also, you said a 12 hour call out is not possible with a PR ending at 0030 PR and a Golden day following. This is not true. You are only auto-released at noon before a golden day if not otherwise given an assignment. You absolutely can get a 1 day assignment that day, releasing theoretically as late as 2359. You can also get a SC period from 1030-1200, but if they don't give you an assignment by 1200, you are auto released at that point. You still have 23 hours and 30 minutes of LC that day.
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Old 07-12-2022 | 09:22 PM
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Does Delta do short call reserve or ready reserve?
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Old 07-12-2022 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Netty
Does Delta do short call reserve or ready reserve?
yes. They’re called reroutes.

In all seriousness, short call is a roughly 2-3 hour callout time and ‘ready reserve’ is not a clearly defined term to the group. It appears a ‘ready reserve’ capability is built into the line construction process via long sits at domiciles (2-5 hours) and also long layovers (30 hours). Some in the pilot group disagree with this application of ‘ready reserve’ so the future contract may have some changes to create such a capability.

Perhaps the group would agree to a 3rd type of monthly flying schedule where a pilot would simply bid a line with a firm start and/or ending time with a wide range of ‘operational flexibility’ as to where he actually flies/lays over during the trip window. With real-time schedule optimization now a possibility, this may be desirable to the company.
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