Reserve for Dummies
#532
Just want to run this by the group...
Due to PB days I have only 1 day of reserve availability. PB---PR/LC---*---X. My release would be 1200 on the LC day. There's a GS for 4 days starting on my PB day. My thought is that day 2 block time would be toward guarantee and day 1,3,4 (and any credit associated with 4) would be above guarantee. I effectively have the LC day off because of the PR portion of the PB ends at 0030 and a 12 hour call out is not possible, however the pay above guarantee won't include day 2. Am I correct? I normally Auto-accept GS and wait for them to call me for acknowledgement so I can negotiate PS for OBGS or ask them to put it on my line temporarily to see what the trip would actually pay me as a RES. I could do that but I would like to know for sure going into the situation. Any ref. is appreciated.
Due to PB days I have only 1 day of reserve availability. PB---PR/LC---*---X. My release would be 1200 on the LC day. There's a GS for 4 days starting on my PB day. My thought is that day 2 block time would be toward guarantee and day 1,3,4 (and any credit associated with 4) would be above guarantee. I effectively have the LC day off because of the PR portion of the PB ends at 0030 and a 12 hour call out is not possible, however the pay above guarantee won't include day 2. Am I correct? I normally Auto-accept GS and wait for them to call me for acknowledgement so I can negotiate PS for OBGS or ask them to put it on my line temporarily to see what the trip would actually pay me as a RES. I could do that but I would like to know for sure going into the situation. Any ref. is appreciated.
#533
Roll’n Thunder
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Just want to run this by the group...
Due to PB days I have only 1 day of reserve availability. PB---PR/LC---*---X. My release would be 1200 on the LC day. There's a GS for 4 days starting on my PB day. My thought is that day 2 block time would be toward guarantee and day 1,3,4 (and any credit associated with 4) would be above guarantee. I effectively have the LC day off because of the PR portion of the PB ends at 0030 and a 12 hour call out is not possible, however the pay above guarantee won't include day 2. Am I correct? I normally Auto-accept GS and wait for them to call me for acknowledgement so I can negotiate PS for OBGS or ask them to put it on my line temporarily to see what the trip would actually pay me as a RES. I could do that but I would like to know for sure going into the situation. Any ref. is appreciated.
Due to PB days I have only 1 day of reserve availability. PB---PR/LC---*---X. My release would be 1200 on the LC day. There's a GS for 4 days starting on my PB day. My thought is that day 2 block time would be toward guarantee and day 1,3,4 (and any credit associated with 4) would be above guarantee. I effectively have the LC day off because of the PR portion of the PB ends at 0030 and a 12 hour call out is not possible, however the pay above guarantee won't include day 2. Am I correct? I normally Auto-accept GS and wait for them to call me for acknowledgement so I can negotiate PS for OBGS or ask them to put it on my line temporarily to see what the trip would actually pay me as a RES. I could do that but I would like to know for sure going into the situation. Any ref. is appreciated.
#534
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Just want to run this by the group...
Due to PB days I have only 1 day of reserve availability. PB---PR/LC---*---X. My release would be 1200 on the LC day. There's a GS for 4 days starting on my PB day. My thought is that day 2 block time would be toward guarantee and day 1,3,4 (and any credit associated with 4) would be above guarantee. I effectively have the LC day off because of the PR portion of the PB ends at 0030 and a 12 hour call out is not possible, however the pay above guarantee won't include day 2. Am I correct? I normally Auto-accept GS and wait for them to call me for acknowledgement so I can negotiate PS for OBGS or ask them to put it on my line temporarily to see what the trip would actually pay me as a RES. I could do that but I would like to know for sure going into the situation. Any ref. is appreciated.
Due to PB days I have only 1 day of reserve availability. PB---PR/LC---*---X. My release would be 1200 on the LC day. There's a GS for 4 days starting on my PB day. My thought is that day 2 block time would be toward guarantee and day 1,3,4 (and any credit associated with 4) would be above guarantee. I effectively have the LC day off because of the PR portion of the PB ends at 0030 and a 12 hour call out is not possible, however the pay above guarantee won't include day 2. Am I correct? I normally Auto-accept GS and wait for them to call me for acknowledgement so I can negotiate PS for OBGS or ask them to put it on my line temporarily to see what the trip would actually pay me as a RES. I could do that but I would like to know for sure going into the situation. Any ref. is appreciated.
#535
And taking the logic further: If it were a full LC day and no PR, the above day 1,3,4 pay and 3 PB days then?
I'm seeing some real brain teasers I have never seen before when we were "adequately staffed."
#536
Roll’n Thunder
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Yes as was said above it will depend on if your PR and duty overlap as far as pay. I think you should still be due 4 PB days regardless because a total of 4 X days were interrupted (again, the partial acts like an X day).
#537
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If you’re on bookface there is a great page that is dedicated to scheduling questions and you get very fast answers. Delta pilots scheduling reference page.
#538
Just want to run this by the group...
Due to PB days I have only 1 day of reserve availability. PB---PR/LC---*---X. My release would be 1200 on the LC day. There's a GS for 4 days starting on my PB day. My thought is that day 2 block time would be toward guarantee and day 1,3,4 (and any credit associated with 4) would be above guarantee. I effectively have the LC day off because of the PR portion of the PB ends at 0030 and a 12 hour call out is not possible, however the pay above guarantee won't include day 2. Am I correct? I normally Auto-accept GS and wait for them to call me for acknowledgement so I can negotiate PS for OBGS or ask them to put it on my line temporarily to see what the trip would actually pay me as a RES. I could do that but I would like to know for sure going into the situation. Any ref. is appreciated.
Due to PB days I have only 1 day of reserve availability. PB---PR/LC---*---X. My release would be 1200 on the LC day. There's a GS for 4 days starting on my PB day. My thought is that day 2 block time would be toward guarantee and day 1,3,4 (and any credit associated with 4) would be above guarantee. I effectively have the LC day off because of the PR portion of the PB ends at 0030 and a 12 hour call out is not possible, however the pay above guarantee won't include day 2. Am I correct? I normally Auto-accept GS and wait for them to call me for acknowledgement so I can negotiate PS for OBGS or ask them to put it on my line temporarily to see what the trip would actually pay me as a RES. I could do that but I would like to know for sure going into the situation. Any ref. is appreciated.
Also, you said a 12 hour call out is not possible with a PR ending at 0030 PR and a Golden day following. This is not true. You are only auto-released at noon before a golden day if not otherwise given an assignment. You absolutely can get a 1 day assignment that day, releasing theoretically as late as 2359. You can also get a SC period from 1030-1200, but if they don't give you an assignment by 1200, you are auto released at that point. You still have 23 hours and 30 minutes of LC that day.
#540
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yes. They’re called reroutes.
In all seriousness, short call is a roughly 2-3 hour callout time and ‘ready reserve’ is not a clearly defined term to the group. It appears a ‘ready reserve’ capability is built into the line construction process via long sits at domiciles (2-5 hours) and also long layovers (30 hours). Some in the pilot group disagree with this application of ‘ready reserve’ so the future contract may have some changes to create such a capability.
Perhaps the group would agree to a 3rd type of monthly flying schedule where a pilot would simply bid a line with a firm start and/or ending time with a wide range of ‘operational flexibility’ as to where he actually flies/lays over during the trip window. With real-time schedule optimization now a possibility, this may be desirable to the company.
In all seriousness, short call is a roughly 2-3 hour callout time and ‘ready reserve’ is not a clearly defined term to the group. It appears a ‘ready reserve’ capability is built into the line construction process via long sits at domiciles (2-5 hours) and also long layovers (30 hours). Some in the pilot group disagree with this application of ‘ready reserve’ so the future contract may have some changes to create such a capability.
Perhaps the group would agree to a 3rd type of monthly flying schedule where a pilot would simply bid a line with a firm start and/or ending time with a wide range of ‘operational flexibility’ as to where he actually flies/lays over during the trip window. With real-time schedule optimization now a possibility, this may be desirable to the company.
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