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11-05-2022 | 11:44 AM
#721
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Not according to the contract.
"Within days-of-availability groupings, reserve pilots whose RAW values are in the same RAW value grouping will be assigned open time in inverse seniority order unless one or more of them have submitted a yellow slip, in which case open time will be awarded in seniority order to the reserve pilot(s) who submitted a yellow slip for such open time"
"Within days-of-availability groupings, reserve pilots whose RAW values are in the same RAW value grouping will be assigned open time in inverse seniority order unless one or more of them have submitted a yellow slip, in which case open time will be awarded in seniority order to the reserve pilot(s) who submitted a yellow slip for such open time"
11-05-2022 | 12:13 PM
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11-05-2022 | 06:38 PM
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No it doesn't. It says trips will be awarded in inverse seniority order within days of availability and RAW group unless there is a YS. In that case, it's not inverse seniority, it's in seniority order.
Here is what the SRH says, which is as good as contract language.
"Open time is awarded/assigned to reserve pilots within the days-of-availability grouping that matches the length of the rotation(s) being covered, beginning with the lowest RAW bucket and then progressing to higher RAW buckets. Within each RAW bucket, pilots who have submitted yellow slips (YS) are considered first, in seniority order. If there are insufficient pilots who have submitted a YS, then the remaining pilots are considered in inverse seniority order."
No it doesn't. It says trips will be awarded in inverse seniority order within days of availability and RAW group unless there is a YS. In that case, it's not inverse seniority, it's in seniority order.
Here is what the SRH says, which is as good as contract language.
"Open time is awarded/assigned to reserve pilots within the days-of-availability grouping that matches the length of the rotation(s) being covered, beginning with the lowest RAW bucket and then progressing to higher RAW buckets. Within each RAW bucket, pilots who have submitted yellow slips (YS) are considered first, in seniority order. If there are insufficient pilots who have submitted a YS, then the remaining pilots are considered in inverse seniority order."
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11-06-2022 | 03:03 AM
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It’s a 24hr period that starts at some time other than midnight.
Assuming a NB: release + 9 hrs (free of duty) then 24hrs for every X day that was violated.
if you release < 1500, then the next day will show as a PR, which is a partial PB.
11-06-2022 | 03:21 AM
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A PB day isn’t a calendar day.
It’s a 24hr period that starts at some time other than midnight.
Assuming a NB: release + 9 hrs (free of duty) then 24hrs for every X day that was violated.
if you release < 1500, then the next day will show as a PR, which is a partial PB.
It’s a 24hr period that starts at some time other than midnight.
Assuming a NB: release + 9 hrs (free of duty) then 24hrs for every X day that was violated.
if you release < 1500, then the next day will show as a PR, which is a partial PB.
1) A morning ATL turn that got broken off of a longer trip so it could be assigned to a day 1 res pilot. Let’s say it checks out at 1330. Add 9 hours so your X days start at 2230. For ease we’ll say that your next day was LC. Your schedule will have a PR with an end time of 2230 then next day.
2) An island turn that releases at 1830. Counting 9 hours out your X days start at 0330. In this case that next day will show on your schedule as PB, and the day after that shows as a PR ending at 0330.
It’s all dumb looking like that because DBMS can’t start an X day at any time other than midnight so the PB/PR workaround was found. It’s weird, but once you’re used to it you can really work some of it to your advantage.
11-06-2022 | 08:40 AM
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No it doesn't. It says trips will be awarded in inverse seniority order within days of availability and RAW group unless there is a YS. In that case, it's not inverse seniority, it's in seniority order.
Here is what the SRH says, which is as good as contract language.
"Open time is awarded/assigned to reserve pilots within the days-of-availability grouping that matches the length of the rotation(s) being covered, beginning with the lowest RAW bucket and then progressing to higher RAW buckets. Within each RAW bucket, pilots who have submitted yellow slips (YS) are considered first, in seniority order. If there are insufficient pilots who have submitted a YS, then the remaining pilots are considered in inverse seniority order."
No it doesn't. It says trips will be awarded in inverse seniority order within days of availability and RAW group unless there is a YS. In that case, it's not inverse seniority, it's in seniority order.
Here is what the SRH says, which is as good as contract language.
"Open time is awarded/assigned to reserve pilots within the days-of-availability grouping that matches the length of the rotation(s) being covered, beginning with the lowest RAW bucket and then progressing to higher RAW buckets. Within each RAW bucket, pilots who have submitted yellow slips (YS) are considered first, in seniority order. If there are insufficient pilots who have submitted a YS, then the remaining pilots are considered in inverse seniority order."
11-06-2022 | 11:13 AM
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No, you said: "But a YS would trump RAW bucket within the same Days of Availability group."
That is not what I posted. A YS does not trump RAW group. You can only YS within RAW group unless there are more trips available than pilots in a lower group..
That is not what I posted. A YS does not trump RAW group. You can only YS within RAW group unless there are more trips available than pilots in a lower group..
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