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Old 11-20-2022 | 03:54 PM
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What does “actual” vs “qualified” mean under PCS. I see those as selection, I assume actual is what trips are actually available, but not certain about the meaning of qualified? I would appreciate a response
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Old 11-20-2022 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by samimifs
What does “actual” vs “qualified” mean under PCS. I see those as selection, I assume actual is what trips are actually available, but not certain about the meaning of qualified? I would appreciate a response

Qualified is someone else trying to drop it, but they can’t because of reserve coverage.

Any “qualified” pilot (same BES and current) can come pick it up.
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Old 11-20-2022 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by samimifs
What does “actual” vs “qualified” mean under PCS. I see those as selection, I assume actual is what trips are actually available, but not certain about the meaning of qualified? I would appreciate a response
When a pilot goes to drop a trip in PCS, if all the days covered are positive on coverage or the pilot used an APD/IVD, then the drop will go thru and the trip will appear in open time.

If the same pilot tries to drop a trip but coverage is not met on all days, the drop will not go through but will stay in PCS and the trip will be listed in open time as a qualified trip.

Any pilot can pick a qualified or actual open time trip via WS (not swap with pot) as long as they don't violate FAR rules or total credit pickup limits.

Only actual open time trips are eligible for swap with the pot.

Often, if a pilot is smart and trying to drop the trip via qualified white slip they will also list the trip on the pilot to pilot swap board that way an interested pilot could take their trip outside whiteslip credit pickup limits since those limits do not apply to swap with pot trades and P2P board.
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Old 11-20-2022 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
Qualified is someone else trying to drop it, but they can’t because of reserve coverage.

Any “qualified” pilot (same BES and current) can come pick it up.
To add to the above, if you are on reserve, “qualified” trips are irrelevant. Reserve cannot be assigned a Q trip.

Only Lineholders (aka “Regular” pilots) can pick up a Q trip.
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Old 11-20-2022 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyhawk92
I drive a little over 4 now, but have a line. Upgrading to junior A next month, so will be driving on reserve for a while.

I found a city about 1:45 from base that has a movie theatre, gym, golf course, bowling alley, library, mall and random other places to hang out for the day.
Did the same before I moved. I had a 4.5 hour drive. There was a city about 1.5 hours from base that had decent hotels, golf courses, hiking trails, lakes, a movie theater, coffee shops, etc. Wasn't bad during the fair weather months. Kind of a drag during winter, but doable. All in all, still beat driving to a cube farm every day.

For what its worth, I can count the number of "No S###, how soon can you get here!?" SC assignments I've ever had on one hand.
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Old 11-20-2022 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by nene
When a pilot goes to drop a trip in PCS, if all the days covered are positive on coverage or the pilot used an APD/IVD, then the drop will go thru and the trip will appear in open time.

If the same pilot tries to drop a trip but coverage is not met on all days, the drop will not go through but will stay in PCS and the trip will be listed in open time as a qualified trip.

Any pilot can pick a qualified or actual open time trip via WS (not swap with pot) as long as they don't violate FAR rules or total credit pickup limits.

Only actual open time trips are eligible for swap with the pot.

Often, if a pilot is smart and trying to drop the trip via qualified white slip they will also list the trip on the pilot to pilot swap board that way an interested pilot could take their trip outside whiteslip credit pickup limits since those limits do not apply to swap with pot trades and P2P board.

that makes perfect sense thank you!
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Old 11-21-2022 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
If CS said that, they were lying. There is not a defined time for SC response. Period. The PWA defines SC as being "promptly available".

But also don't screw the rest of us over and be out of position, or report 3-4 hours later.
If there isn't a defined time for SC response other than being "promptly available" (and I agree there is no actual defined time) then how am I screwing the rest of you over if I show 3-4 hours later? Just curious.
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Old 11-21-2022 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
If there isn't a defined time for SC response other than being "promptly available" (and I agree there is no actual defined time) then how am I screwing the rest of you over if I show 3-4 hours later? Just curious.
I think the idea is that if pilots routinely take 3-4 hours to show for shortcall assignments, the company may push for a change to the verbiage and publish an actual time requirement.
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Old 11-21-2022 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
If there isn't a defined time for SC response other than being "promptly available" (and I agree there is no actual defined time) then how am I screwing the rest of you over if I show 3-4 hours later? Just curious.
Ever heard the phrase, "Because one guy crapped his pants, everyone has to wear diapers"? This company has too much history taking out the sins of a few bad apples on the whole of the pilot group. Look at how they treat the "sick problem" with 100-hour verifications, excluding non-major bone breaks, and eliminating voluntary sick verification forms. Also, how the treated the rest of us when a very small number of 747 pilots got caught failing to commute to SC reserve for years - so the company started putting every reserve pilot on maximum short calls for an entire summer just to probe "2 can play at that game" (And causing ALPA a HUGE amount of capital to save 3 of the 4 jobs).

Barring a huge unforeseen accident or freak snowstorm, 3-4 hours gives the company justification/ammunition to make it harder on the rest of us.
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Old 11-21-2022 | 07:04 AM
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The fact that it took multiple phone calls and a union rep involved to have this considered a major bone break is insane. Also having to play mother may I to nonrev whenit was obvious I wasn't calking out sick to ditch a crap trip.



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