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10-08-2022 | 05:51 AM
#701
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You do receive the full 24 hours free from duty plus 9 or 13, it’s just the block in almost never works out for it to be at exactly midnight for PB/PR purposes.
10-08-2022 | 06:09 AM
#702
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ACE inquiry submitted. Here’s screen shot. Rotation xxx0/03OCT released 1439. Rotation xxx6/05OCT released 1426. I’m thinking still due PR day on 12 based on Alert 20-13(sort of example 3.)
When does the 9 hour free calculation begin for xxx6/05OCT? Does it begin at end of PB day on 10? Or does the 9 hours start at 1426/05?
10-08-2022 | 06:23 AM
#703
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ACE inquiry submitted. Here’s screen shot. Rotation xxx0/03OCT released 1439. Rotation xxx6/05OCT released 1426. I’m thinking still due PR day on 12 based on Alert 20-13(sort of example 3.)
When does the 9 hour free calculation begin for xxx6/05OCT? Does it begin at end of PB day on 10? Or does the 9 hours start at 1426/05?
When does the 9 hour free calculation begin for xxx6/05OCT? Does it begin at end of PB day on 10? Or does the 9 hours start at 1426/05?
They owe you 1 PB for any x-day flown….starting 9 hours after release. I don’t see how they violated this? In my mind, you’d have to release after 1500 to kick in a PR (1500 is often touted as a magic number for domestic…as 1500+9:00 crosses midnight).
EDIT; agree w/crewdawg below…it’s based on release time.
Last edited by BCan; 10-08-2022 at 06:36 AM.
10-08-2022 | 06:24 AM
#704
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ACE inquiry submitted. Here’s screen shot. Rotation xxx0/03OCT released 1439. Rotation xxx6/05OCT released 1426. I’m thinking still due PR day on 12 based on Alert 20-13(sort of example 3.)
When does the 9 hour free calculation begin for xxx6/05OCT? Does it begin at end of PB day on 10? Or does the 9 hours start at 1426/05?
When does the 9 hour free calculation begin for xxx6/05OCT? Does it begin at end of PB day on 10? Or does the 9 hours start at 1426/05?
If those times are release and not block-in times, then I'd say it looks mostly correct. Actually the 11th probably should be a PR that goes 2326, but I'm not 100% certain on that.
Last edited by crewdawg; 10-08-2022 at 11:30 AM.
10-08-2022 | 06:35 AM
#705
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He flew on a x-day…at a minimum he gets 1 PB added to the end of the x-days. I’m confident the PR only adds if required based on release…it can’t result in less than a full PB.
10-08-2022 | 09:09 AM
#706
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Remember, a PB is, in reality, a 24-hour X day which begins/ends at other than midnight. The “PR” is simply how the end time is represented on the midnight-based calendar.
10-08-2022 | 10:32 AM
#707
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Not true. If you fly a 1 day GS/IA which releases before 1500, or if you have a mix of 1 (single) X-day and Res which releases before 1500, you will only get a PR.
Remember, a PB is, in reality, a 24-hour X day which begins/ends at other than midnight. The “PR” is simply how the end time is represented on the midnight-based calendar.
Remember, a PB is, in reality, a 24-hour X day which begins/ends at other than midnight. The “PR” is simply how the end time is represented on the midnight-based calendar.
So if you do a quick morning turn on an X day and release at noon, most just assume you get 1 full PB day covering your next LC day, but in fact your X day is now a day of work, so you get the 9 hours, which in this example takes you to 2100, then you get a full 24 hours off, so in this example you’d just see a single PR till 2100 on your schedule.
As pilots we just think that an X day is always an X day, and since PB time goes over LC days they don’t factor in the X day getting partial PB time over it.
10-08-2022 | 10:36 AM
#708
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Here’s what most people miss: you essentially get PB time paid over days of work. Even though you were originally off, a GS over an X day turns that day into a day of work, so your PB timer starts as soon as you are released 30 minutes after block in. It’s counterintuitive, because you’re getting time off over time that was already off.
So if you do a quick morning turn on an X day and release at noon, most just assume you get 1 full PB day covering your next LC day, but in fact your X day is now a day of work, so you get the 9 hours, which in this example takes you to 2100, then you get a full 24 hours off, so in this example you’d just see a single PR till 2100 on your schedule.
So if you do a quick morning turn on an X day and release at noon, most just assume you get 1 full PB day covering your next LC day, but in fact your X day is now a day of work, so you get the 9 hours, which in this example takes you to 2100, then you get a full 24 hours off, so in this example you’d just see a single PR till 2100 on your schedule.
10-08-2022 | 10:44 AM
#709
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