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05-18-2024, 10:34 AM
#1702
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The current MEC has been getting walked all over by the company for a year now. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them agree with the company’s position at this point.
The company will keep pushing the limits until we make a few more changes on the ALPA side.
The company will keep pushing the limits until we make a few more changes on the ALPA side.
Last edited by ancman; 05-18-2024 at 10:44 AM.
05-18-2024, 10:59 AM
#1705
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Reportedly, there are at least some ALPA reps who have looked into this and are stating nothing (should have) changed, that the ALPA rep normall on the floor is looking into the facts, and they are pursuing it. The SRH says in Black and White on page 54/55 that PR go in the bank. That's as binding as the PWA.
If some middle manager went rogue, they need a very public (symbolic) flogging. This is totally unsat.
05-18-2024, 11:06 AM
#1706
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Between CNO 'change' in practive for SC, Positive Space 'reinterpritation' (and retraction), 65:00 min guarnatee STILL not being paid properly, increase in GFB calls, managment seems to really be trying to turn the screws down. All while smiling and saying they are putting in extra effort to fix pay.
Reportedly, there are at least some ALPA reps who have looked into this and are stating nothing (should have) changed, that the ALPA rep normall on the floor is looking into the facts, and they are pursuing it. The SRH says in Black and White on page 54/55 that PR go in the bank. That's as binding as the PWA.
If some middle manager went rogue, they need a very public (symbolic) flogging. This is totally unsat.
Reportedly, there are at least some ALPA reps who have looked into this and are stating nothing (should have) changed, that the ALPA rep normall on the floor is looking into the facts, and they are pursuing it. The SRH says in Black and White on page 54/55 that PR go in the bank. That's as binding as the PWA.
If some middle manager went rogue, they need a very public (symbolic) flogging. This is totally unsat.
05-18-2024, 11:13 AM
#1707
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I strongly suspect that someone real high up on the management side had some serious buyers' remore about our contract and sometime in the past few months issued a "call to arms" to find any issue, real or mostly imagined, to try and scrape back a few pennies from the pilot group. Bad, bad policy that should backfire spectacularly.
05-18-2024, 11:14 AM
#1708
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But to change things without a word, and worse, go back and take pay from people is unconscionable, IMO, honorable organizations don’t just retroactively change long-standing practice.
05-18-2024, 11:36 AM
#1709
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Between CNO 'change' in practive for SC, Positive Space 'reinterpritation' (and retraction), 65:00 min guarnatee STILL not being paid properly, increase in GFB calls, managment seems to really be trying to turn the screws down. All while smiling and saying they are putting in extra effort to fix pay.
Reportedly, there are at least some ALPA reps who have looked into this and are stating nothing (should have) changed, that the ALPA rep normall on the floor is looking into the facts, and they are pursuing it. The SRH says in Black and White on page 54/55 that PR go in the bank. That's as binding as the PWA.
If some middle manager went rogue, they need a very public (symbolic) flogging. This is totally unsat.
Reportedly, there are at least some ALPA reps who have looked into this and are stating nothing (should have) changed, that the ALPA rep normall on the floor is looking into the facts, and they are pursuing it. The SRH says in Black and White on page 54/55 that PR go in the bank. That's as binding as the PWA.
If some middle manager went rogue, they need a very public (symbolic) flogging. This is totally unsat.
Only about 4 years ago, Ed called the MEC (chaired by RS at the time) the “Most difficult MEC he has ever worked with.” They hammered out some good deals for the pilot group during the Covid era, all while fully protecting the PWA.
We’ve come a long way since then. The current MEC simply doesn’t have management’s respect. We’re seeing the consequences almost continuously.
05-18-2024, 11:57 AM
#1710
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Position: DAL FO
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Excellent addition. It’s one thing to say, “new policy, and from this point forward…”
But to change things without a word, and worse, go back and take pay from people is unconscionable, IMO, honorable organizations don’t just retroactively change long-standing practice.
But to change things without a word, and worse, go back and take pay from people is unconscionable, IMO, honorable organizations don’t just retroactively change long-standing practice.
I’ll be honest I haven’t been auditing every paycheck because I don’t want to put an hour plus into it twice a month - nor should I have to.
No faster way to pi$$ off your employees than screwing around with their pay…particularly without saying anything.
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