Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
#8941
if said pilot can’t drop their schedule without Mil leave, it’s screwing a pilot on RSV or someone senior that could use their APD/IVD.
Sooo many ways we can skin this cat, these are some of them. Also if they decide to use their MIL leave to pick a SS that they couldn’t pick up because it conflicts with the trip dropped.
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#8943
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#8944
Can’t find crew pickup
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I do not in any way think it’s very many people, too many smart people out there to know how bad this can screw them. And while the example someone put out there was doing drill on the 23rd just to drop a trip that went over Christmas they couldn’t hold off is completely scummy, but legal, and probably caused someone to have to go in over Christmas that may have been able to avoid it on reserve sitting at home, so whatever. Highly unlikely that far out that it got dropped that it ended up going as a GS.
I guess I kicked a hornets nest.
#8945
Can’t find crew pickup
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#8946
Gets Weekends Off
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You don’t have to believe me, it’s ok. One’s a loudmouth, possible he’s just trying to make people think his the “f$@k the rules I do what I want” kind of dude and not the giant tool he is. Second actually left for FedEx during Covid. So I goes KNOW was a little strong (but the one who isn’t here for sure was doing it).
I do not in any way think it’s very many people, too many smart people out there to know how bad this can screw them. And while the example someone put out there was doing drill on the 23rd just to drop a trip that went over Christmas they couldn’t hold off is completely scummy, but legal, and probably caused someone to have to go in over Christmas that may have been able to avoid it on reserve sitting at home, so whatever. Highly unlikely that far out that it got dropped that it ended up going as a GS.
I guess I kicked a hornets nest.
I do not in any way think it’s very many people, too many smart people out there to know how bad this can screw them. And while the example someone put out there was doing drill on the 23rd just to drop a trip that went over Christmas they couldn’t hold off is completely scummy, but legal, and probably caused someone to have to go in over Christmas that may have been able to avoid it on reserve sitting at home, so whatever. Highly unlikely that far out that it got dropped that it ended up going as a GS.
I guess I kicked a hornets nest.
you have no proof to offer here other than anecdotal postulations. If you do have proof of recent systemic abuse of MLOA, I'll eat my hat (assuming I can find it)
You are barking up the wrong tree here with this stuff.
#8947
#8948
On Reserve
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The CPO can absolutely call a mil members commander to verify service during the requested mil leave period. The military often has 24/7 365 manning requirements. They volunteered, the avail themselves to all sorts of unpleasantness, deployment and other things. In your opinion you don't like it. Sorry, but they have commitments and obligations. Again, CPOs can make a call.
you have no proof to offer here other than anecdotal postulations. If you do have proof of recent systemic abuse of MLOA, I'll eat my hat (assuming I can find it)
You are barking up the wrong tree here with this stuff.
you have no proof to offer here other than anecdotal postulations. If you do have proof of recent systemic abuse of MLOA, I'll eat my hat (assuming I can find it)
You are barking up the wrong tree here with this stuff.
You don't have to believe me and I won't name names on a forum. But I saw that abuse from the mil side of things while a scheduler on active duty, and I see it now in the 121 world. I've actually had people openly confess in the cockpit to what I would consider abuses of mil leave. It's real, and it may be rare, but not exceedingly rare. The military is populated with great folks, but it's not totally devoid of selfishness and self-serving personalities.
#8949
Can’t find crew pickup
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The CPO can absolutely call a mil members commander to verify service during the requested mil leave period. The military often has 24/7 365 manning requirements. They volunteered, the avail themselves to all sorts of unpleasantness, deployment and other things. In your opinion you don't like it. Sorry, but they have commitments and obligations. Again, CPOs can make a call.
you have no proof to offer here other than anecdotal postulations. If you do have proof of recent systemic abuse of MLOA, I'll eat my hat (assuming I can find it)
You are barking up the wrong tree here with this stuff.
you have no proof to offer here other than anecdotal postulations. If you do have proof of recent systemic abuse of MLOA, I'll eat my hat (assuming I can find it)
You are barking up the wrong tree here with this stuff.
Don’t worry, if you ever need a hat to eat I’ll buy you a brand new one to eat.
#8950
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Reservists with airline jobs often DON'T avail themselves for those unpleasant things. Often, they specifically make themselves unavailable and fenced by their leadership to avoid the worst taskings and trips that their active duty brethren are then stuck with, while siphoning off all the easy work and high-QOL trips.
You don't have to believe me and I won't name names on a forum. But I saw that abuse from the mil side of things while a scheduler on active duty, and I see it now in the 121 world. I've actually had people openly confess in the cockpit to what I would consider abuses of mil leave. It's real, and it may be rare, but not exceedingly rare. The military is populated with great folks, but it's not totally devoid of selfishness and self-serving personalities.
You don't have to believe me and I won't name names on a forum. But I saw that abuse from the mil side of things while a scheduler on active duty, and I see it now in the 121 world. I've actually had people openly confess in the cockpit to what I would consider abuses of mil leave. It's real, and it may be rare, but not exceedingly rare. The military is populated with great folks, but it's not totally devoid of selfishness and self-serving personalities.
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