30% Raise DOS and 25% DC
09-09-2022 | 06:10 AM
#431
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They also only apply certain mitigations to bid pack rotations but not to broken trips, reroutes or reserve assignments. Everyone knows rerouted pilots don’t need the same safety mitigations that other pilots need, amiright???
Safety first-ish! (bid pack)… but then more like third or fourth once flying is actually being executed. If they shared the mitigations they’ve agreed are fatiguing with the masses, they’d have to be accountable. If they keep them secret, we’ll only learn about them in the hull loss after action report.
Safety first-ish! (bid pack)… but then more like third or fourth once flying is actually being executed. If they shared the mitigations they’ve agreed are fatiguing with the masses, they’d have to be accountable. If they keep them secret, we’ll only learn about them in the hull loss after action report.
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09-09-2022 | 06:26 AM
#432
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First have a focused opener not a decision to rewrite the entire contract. Keep the opener within a reasonable zone of expectations. Not ridiculous things like DALPA to control all rotation construction. If I were king which I am not the opener would have looked something like this.
3 year contract
pay 12, 6, 6
vacation to 5:15
Training 5:15
All pilots must have option for 1 week of vacation 07 June to 20 Aug
20% DC
14 hour long call
Open flying greater than 8 hours to report must use coverage ladder.
I year freeze on upgrades. 3 years on lateral or downbid in base, 1 year with base change.
All positions posted on a AE required to be filled
eliminate 1 year AE
profit sharing status quo
LCA override 50%
270 hours top sick leave, 150 before verification. Increase sick leave first year to 100 and adjust scale throughout accordingly.
Updated manning formula that adjusts on a category basis when GS’s exceed 4% of total block. Can adjust down when GS’s under 1% of block.
Class 1 rest facility for all flying over 12 hours block. Class 2 over 8 hours.
4 monthly PS spaces from home of record to domicile to be used at pilot option.
Commuting policy 1 flight arriving 60 minutes prior to report. Pilots expected to use good judgement on weather issues.
3 year contract
pay 12, 6, 6
vacation to 5:15
Training 5:15
All pilots must have option for 1 week of vacation 07 June to 20 Aug
20% DC
14 hour long call
Open flying greater than 8 hours to report must use coverage ladder.
I year freeze on upgrades. 3 years on lateral or downbid in base, 1 year with base change.
All positions posted on a AE required to be filled
eliminate 1 year AE
profit sharing status quo
LCA override 50%
270 hours top sick leave, 150 before verification. Increase sick leave first year to 100 and adjust scale throughout accordingly.
Updated manning formula that adjusts on a category basis when GS’s exceed 4% of total block. Can adjust down when GS’s under 1% of block.
Class 1 rest facility for all flying over 12 hours block. Class 2 over 8 hours.
4 monthly PS spaces from home of record to domicile to be used at pilot option.
Commuting policy 1 flight arriving 60 minutes prior to report. Pilots expected to use good judgement on weather issues.
Make those pay rates retroactive to 1/1/20 and we can START to have a conversation.
09-09-2022 | 06:35 AM
#433
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09-09-2022 | 06:43 AM
#434
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This would have been my opener in 2019. Yes, you would not get everything. Pay might have ended up 8,4,4 and 18% DC. Company might have wanted a give somewhere for a 14 hour long call. Vacation might have been 4:30 a day. It’s all a negotiation! In the end my expectation would have been a net of about 1 billion in improvements.
Seems pretty unequivocal. But a man's just gotta hate, right Boat?
09-09-2022 | 06:49 AM
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09-09-2022 | 07:27 AM
#439
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Most, not all! It simply comes down to manning in each category which goes back to marketing. If they have the manning to meet the block needs the incorporate RCC wishes. If not which I agree has been the norm since the big recovery in demand they ignore the RCC.
09-09-2022 | 07:37 AM
#440
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Right. And if we had contractual teeth to the RCC, Flight Ops could push back on the craziness that was the Network and Marketing selling more seats than they have pilots. I'm not saying it'll solve all our problems, but some categories have no 1-2 day trips and only 4-5 day trips. This refusal to compromise at all with the RCC because, reasons, is why we need contractual language.
