30% Raise DOS and 25% DC
09-08-2022 | 06:15 AM
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This would have been my opener in 2019. Yes, you would not get everything. Pay might have ended up 8,4,4 and 18% DC. Company might have wanted a give somewhere for a 14 hour long call. Vacation might have been 4:30 a day. It’s all a negotiation! In the end my expectation would have been a net of about 1 billion in improvements.
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09-08-2022 | 06:32 AM
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I would agree it might not have passed. You asked what I would do.
09-08-2022 | 06:34 AM
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DALPA polled the masses and the majority wanted a deep dive negotiation into nearly all aspects of the contract. That’s not a rewrite, that’s cleaning out clutter that has eroded qol little by little. A better informed and knowledgeable company negotiating team wouldn’t have been so overwhelmed and ill-prepared to discuss mutually beneficial improvements.
To my knowledge DALPA never advocated for full control of rotation construction - where did you hear this, or why are you exaggerating?
To my knowledge DALPA never advocated for full control of rotation construction - where did you hear this, or why are you exaggerating?
“Establish ALPA control over the quality of rotation construction”
09-08-2022 | 07:17 AM
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Some regional airline unions are responsible for constructing rotations. And while I don't necessarily think our union needs to be the one actually building rotations, we should have language in the contract that more effectively restrictions pairing construction. For example, trip mix on all fleets is abysmal. If your fleet only has international 6-9 days but could support 3 days, why isn't that being done? Why do most domestic fleets have a trip mix of 70% 4-5 day trips? We got a promise from the company that they were going to institute certain "fatigue mitigating" measure in trip construction but made our Fatigue and schedule chairmen committee sign an NDA as to what those measures were. The RCC needs more teeth. Period.
09-08-2022 | 07:46 AM
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Some regional airline unions are responsible for constructing rotations. And while I don't necessarily think our union needs to be the one actually building rotations, we should have language in the contract that more effectively restrictions pairing construction. For example, trip mix on all fleets is abysmal. If your fleet only has international 6-9 days but could support 3 days, why isn't that being done? Why do most domestic fleets have a trip mix of 70% 4-5 day trips? We got a promise from the company that they were going to institute certain "fatigue mitigating" measure in trip construction but made our Fatigue and schedule chairmen committee sign an NDA as to what those measures were. The RCC needs more teeth. Period.
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09-08-2022 | 11:07 AM
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Actually the company is quite open with the RCC and DALPA. In fact DALPA has always been allowed full scheduling level access to DBMS. The disagreement comes on how much credit is acceptable. The processes are extremely transparent.
09-08-2022 | 11:58 AM
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Wrong. Engage podcast E5 19:30 time.
