It seems like Alaska already dropped the ball on this didn't they? If I'm not mistaken they got a bonus, not retro. The precedent has been set (and very low). ALPA always working against itself. I'm not expecting much more than Alaska and would expect they gave up on retro already.

….ceppin’ fer the thousands of us (hopefully a majority) who won’t vote to ratify weak retro.

Asking because I’m not sure: when have Delta pilots NOT received retro pay? Wouldn’t that be more of a precedent than what the Eskimo got?

All this time and energy wasted on a retro discussion when you need to be looking out the windscreen not the rear mirror. Escalator clause solves this for good. Keep arguing over the age of dinosaurs while management laughs, retaining you on puppet strings every 4 years. Same actions expecting different results is what?

Welcome to 2022. But at least Ambrosi gets his.

Yep, there aren't enough PB days in the system for a Delta pilot to even touch JA. He could give two pieces of dog doo what we get now.

It doesn't matter what JA wants. It never did. All that matters is what the majority of the reps and line pilots will fight for.

And that is going to be determined by the strike vote results. If the results suck, of course the weak reps are going to use it as an excuse to settle for a crappy TA.

If the results are solid, it makes it much harder for them to give in.

At this point everything comes down to strike the vote numbers.

The MEC really doesnt control as much as people give credit. The negotiating stance comes from the reps we elect, the mec chair is the day to day stuff. Think of the reps like the BOD. JA left, theres someone in leadership that can carry the "vision" forward, and the reps will vote them in.

correct. There are former UNA pilots on the other SM platforms, who were paid for X amount of months, never furloughed, that are now Captains saying they won’t support retro for VEOP because some LOA didn’t pass by a large enough percentage regarding UNA. Flawed
logic because it was like a US Congress bill, lots of other crap in the loa that made it not a slam
dunk, still passed though.

This is ALL that matters now. This group will either walk the talk or fold like a polyester suit. Which is it fellow unionists/key board warriors? Will you meet the challenge or should we start printing the “next time” lanyards.

BTW, there will never be a better “next time”