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Originally Posted by formerdal
(Post 3518263)
I don't believe we have ever received full retro!
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3518308)
C15 had full retro of 18% for 10 months.
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Originally Posted by BravoTo16L
(Post 3518169)
You mean like a min balance parting gift? Believe it or not there are those on the MEC pushing for this.
Just about makes up for the retirement they were promised... and had taken away... said no one |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3518308)
C15 had full retro of 18% for 10 months.
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
(Post 3518367)
Was it signed 18 months after the amenable? Honest question
retro all the way back to 1/1/16. |
If the details I saw on Americans TA turn out to be true the chances of a ratifiable TA at Delta just dropped to zero.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3518607)
If the details I saw on Americans TA turn out to be true the chances of a ratifiable TA at Delta just dropped to zero.
Why don't we just save the cloak and dagger and post what you've heard? It'll be confirmed or refuted, as appropriate. |
Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
(Post 3518619)
...and what you saw was...?
19% raise (12/5/2) over 3 years Retro pay (6 months) Signing bonus Snap up if DAL/ual/SWA get better rates to match them or open negotiations (limited to 3% and 2 year waiting period) Profit sharing set aside to pilots only (but also includes wholly owned regional pilots so very diluted) Variable premium Designated prem days LTD now pays 12k/mo RHRA if you have 150k in sick bank when you retire you take it with you Market based cash balance plan when you exceed the max 401k APA has a say on how many 1,2,3,4,5 day trips the company publishes Hotel language improvement (not really though.. ..actually potentially worse than current language depending on how executed) Check airmen (sim)now get 20% override and only have 15 days (138 hrs of pay) of work. Line only check airmen get a 30% override with a 108hr quarantee Reserve Premium if called before 10am Reassignments now trigger premium. If you are a reserve pilot with any reassignment it triggers an above guarantee prem (but only on reassigned legs not entire sequence like Alaska got). Reduce seat lock to 12 months Creation of blank lines of you just want to just see what you can build your line up Change to how we do recovery obligations for canceled trips (if you sign in and your trip is cancelled you have to do 5 hrs of airport standby to be pay protected) Signing bonus is $17 mil total for 15,000 pilots. $1100 a piece roughly |
Looks like some good, some bad. However, that signing bonus and retro have to be a joke. Complete non-starter, at least for me. The rate increases are pathetic too. Do better APA.
EDIT: I know I changed my post after you quoted it. But the change seems appropriate.😅 |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3518626)
I don’t know if it’s correct. It’s bad enough I suspect it can’t be true however here you go. I make zero claims to if it’s correct or not.
19% raise (12/5/2) over 3 years Retro pay (6 months) Signing bonus Snap up if DAL/ual/SWA get better rates to match them or open negotiations (limited to 3% and 2 year waiting period) Profit sharing set aside to pilots only (but also includes wholly owned regional pilots so very diluted) Variable premium Designated prem days LTD now pays 12k/mo RHRA if you have 150k in sick bank when you retire you take it with you Market based cash balance plan when you exceed the max 401k APA has a say on how many 1,2,3,4,5 day trips the company publishes Hotel language improvement (not really though.. ..actually potentially worse than current language depending on how executed) Check airmen (sim)now get 20% override and only have 15 days (138 hrs of pay) of work. Line only check airmen get a 30% override with a 108hr quarantee Reserve Premium if called before 10am Reassignments now trigger premium. If you are a reserve pilot with any reassignment it triggers an above guarantee prem (but only on reassigned legs not entire sequence like Alaska got). Reduce seat lock to 12 months Creation of blank lines of you just want to just see what you can build your line up Change to how we do recovery obligations for canceled trips (if you sign in and your trip is cancelled you have to do 5 hrs of airport standby to be pay protected) Signing bonus is $17 mil total for 15,000 pilots. $1100 a piece roughly |
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