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Old 12-14-2022 | 11:43 AM
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What if DL picks up the 767-400s from UA (or more likely if from its leasing companies … not sure if they are owned by UA or not) … 16 gently used airframes on an orphaned fleet type … I’d bet RA would have already made that deal … EB not so much.

I’ll make the unlikely black sheep prediction: UA 767-400s plus the Qantas 717s makes DL’s biggest growth fleets of 2025 the 767-400 and 717.
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Old 12-14-2022 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
I'm sorry to be frank but this is complete and utter nonsense. While we are not as big as United let's not get into hyperbole. The bid packet for our international fleets has plenty of flying outside AF/KL/VS hubs
Plenty?

How many TATL and Pacific flights do we have today systemwide outside of LHR, AMS, and CDG?

ATL-ICN
ATL-HND
ATL-DUB
ATL-LOS
ATL-MUC
ATL-GRU
ATL-JNB-CPT
ATL-FRA
ATL-FCO
ATL-SCL
ATL-EZE
ATL-LIM

BOS - DUB

DTW-ICN
DTW-HND
DTW-FRA

LAX-SYD

JFK-FRA
JFK-MAD
JFK-BRU
JFK-ARN
JFK-MXP
JFK-FCO
JFK-BCN
JFK-LIS
JFK-ZRH
JFK-DUB
JFK-GRU
JFK-TLV
JFK-ACC

SEA-HND
SEA-ICN

That's 32 TATL & Pacific flights systemwide outside of AMS/CDG/LHR.

How many do United and AA have?
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Old 12-14-2022 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
GH said wb will be Airbus only.

which is a good indication that delta’s 787 order to replace ERs and -400s is just about to be announced.
Well, ERs aren’t wide bodies so he didn’t lie?
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Old 12-14-2022 | 04:08 PM
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Both UAL and AA are single-manufacturer widebody airlines. Why so much consternation about us trending in the same direction?
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Old 12-14-2022 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
Both UAL and AA are single-manufacturer widebody airlines. Why so much consternation about us trending in the same direction?
Because it’s not a 787. I don’t know what’s the hard on that airplane. Same as the 777..,meh, give me a tray table any day!
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Old 12-14-2022 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DALFA
Plenty?

How many TATL and Pacific flights do we have today systemwide outside of LHR, AMS, and CDG?

ATL-ICN
ATL-HND
ATL-DUB
ATL-LOS
ATL-MUC
ATL-GRU
ATL-JNB-CPT
ATL-FRA
ATL-FCO
ATL-SCL
ATL-EZE
ATL-LIM

BOS - DUB

DTW-ICN
DTW-HND
DTW-FRA

LAX-SYD

JFK-FRA
JFK-MAD
JFK-BRU
JFK-ARN
JFK-MXP
JFK-FCO
JFK-BCN
JFK-LIS
JFK-ZRH
JFK-DUB
JFK-GRU
JFK-TLV
JFK-ACC

SEA-HND
SEA-ICN

That's 32 TATL & Pacific flights systemwide outside of AMS/CDG/LHR.

How many do United and AA have?
Just off the top of my head, you missed

ATL - MAD
ATL - GIG

I’m sure there are others.

Plus all the summer destinations you don’t have listed.

UA has a larger WB fleet, that’s not in dispute, but we do more than most think.

And we should do more. Hopefully the global scope provisions address this.
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Old 12-14-2022 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DALFA
Plenty?

How many TATL and Pacific flights do we have today systemwide outside of LHR, AMS, and CDG?

ATL-ICN
ATL-HND
ATL-DUB
ATL-LOS
ATL-MUC
ATL-GRU
ATL-JNB-CPT
ATL-FRA
ATL-FCO
ATL-SCL
ATL-EZE
ATL-LIM

BOS - DUB

DTW-ICN
DTW-HND
DTW-FRA

LAX-SYD

JFK-FRA
JFK-MAD
JFK-BRU
JFK-ARN
JFK-MXP
JFK-FCO
JFK-BCN
JFK-LIS
JFK-ZRH
JFK-DUB
JFK-GRU
JFK-TLV
JFK-ACC

SEA-HND
SEA-ICN

That's 32 TATL & Pacific flights systemwide outside of AMS/CDG/LHR.

How many do United and AA have?
You’ve got be missing a bunch. DTW only has 3 long haul routes? Also, GRU, LIM, and EZE are not TATL/TPAC
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Old 12-14-2022 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DALFA
Plenty?

How many TATL and Pacific flights do we have today systemwide outside of LHR, AMS, and CDG?

ATL-ICN
ATL-HND
ATL-DUB
ATL-LOS
ATL-MUC
ATL-GRU
ATL-JNB-CPT
ATL-FRA
ATL-FCO
ATL-SCL
ATL-EZE
ATL-LIM

BOS - DUB

DTW-ICN
DTW-HND
DTW-FRA

LAX-SYD

JFK-FRA
JFK-MAD
JFK-BRU
JFK-ARN
JFK-MXP
JFK-FCO
JFK-BCN
JFK-LIS
JFK-ZRH
JFK-DUB
JFK-GRU
JFK-TLV
JFK-ACC

SEA-HND
SEA-ICN

That's 32 TATL & Pacific flights systemwide outside of AMS/CDG/LHR.

How many do United and AA have?
How could you forget JFK-DSS….the crown jewel of the network!!
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Old 12-14-2022 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Because it’s not a 787. I don’t know what’s the hard on that airplane. Same as the 777..,meh, give me a tray table any day!
No kidding. I don't get the 787 lust, especially if it all pays the same. I think the 350 looks better, especially the 1000
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Old 12-14-2022 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DALFA
Plenty?

How many TATL and Pacific flights do we have today systemwide outside of LHR, AMS, and CDG?

ATL-ICN
ATL-HND
ATL-DUB
ATL-LOS
ATL-MUC
ATL-GRU
ATL-JNB-CPT
ATL-FRA
ATL-FCO
ATL-SCL
ATL-EZE
ATL-LIM

BOS - DUB

DTW-ICN
DTW-HND
DTW-FRA

LAX-SYD

JFK-FRA
JFK-MAD
JFK-BRU
JFK-ARN
JFK-MXP
JFK-FCO
JFK-BCN
JFK-LIS
JFK-ZRH
JFK-DUB
JFK-GRU
JFK-TLV
JFK-ACC

SEA-HND
SEA-ICN

That's 32 TATL & Pacific flights systemwide outside of AMS/CDG/LHR.

How many do United and AA have?
Good grief....Why do you post blatantly wrong info just to make a point. It's a disease on APC.....

Here are tomorrows departures from DTW. And it's not even summer when it Europe really ramps up.

DTW-ICN
DTW-NGO
DTW-LHR
DTW-AMS x 3
DTW-CDG x 2
DTW-FRA
DTW-HND
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