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Old 01-22-2023, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku View Post
I don’t doubt any of this but there is a level of maturity and experience that is impossible to have at 24. That doesn’t mean a 24 year old can’t do the job. But you can’t rush some things.
I was only 3 years removed from doing keg stands at 24 years old!!!........Frank the Tank.......
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Old 01-22-2023, 11:51 AM
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The van ride is the biggest threat in my WARTS brief with very little mitigation. Wear your seatbelt and pray.

It’s only a matter of time before crew members get killed in a van ride. Accommodations really needs to look hard at transportation providers.

I fill the FCRs but nothing seems to change.
Absolutely 100% the most dangerous part of our day. Followed by the walk around.
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Old 01-22-2023, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun View Post
Absolutely 100% the most dangerous part of our day. Followed by the walk around.
…and crossing Sepulveda Blvd on the way to the parking lot.
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Old 01-22-2023, 12:15 PM
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…and crossing Sepulveda Blvd on the way to the parking lot.
Its only a matter of time
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Old 01-22-2023, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mediocre Pilot View Post
Not my experience as a B. At ~69%, I was holding EDI, LIS, and picking up the occasional MAD & BCN. Lots of folks can't handle/bid off the 2 pilot runs to the UK. I didn't think they were that bad. Is it that different for As?

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In the summer maybe. No way you’re holding that in the winter
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Old 01-22-2023, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mediocre Pilot View Post
Not my experience as a B. At ~69%, I was holding EDI, LIS, and picking up the occasional MAD & BCN. Lots of folks can't handle/bid off the 2 pilot runs to the UK. I didn't think they were that bad. Is it that different for As?

The ACC is a hidden gem. 12 hours to the world's easiest arrival, dinner, drinks, pool, malaria, and back in time for the first flight home!
Europe seems to go a lot more senior in the left seat, I think part of it might be because there are 2 times as many B trips to Europe vs A trips.
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Old 01-22-2023, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku View Post
I don’t doubt any of this but there is a level of maturity and experience that is impossible to have at 24. That doesn’t mean a 24 year old can’t do the job. But you can’t rush some things.
There are guys in their mid 20s who are sitting in the left seat of C-17s and C-5s. Air refueling, combat ops, worldwide non sched ops but yeah…maturity. The kids will be fine.
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Old 01-22-2023, 01:49 PM
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NB A is definitely harder than WB A. The NATS are about easy as they come. WATRS is way more difficult. The guy doing 4 legs a day, deicing, holding, diverting, dodging storms in the summer, etc. is a whole lot harder than getting a selcal check at 30W. Not sure why people think the NATS is this complex impossible feat that only more experienced pilots will understand.

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Old 01-22-2023, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku View Post
I don’t doubt any of this but there is a level of maturity and experience that is impossible to have at 24. That doesn’t mean a 24 year old can’t do the job. But you can’t rush some things.
There’s 23 year olds flying Eagles and Super Hornets with only a couple hundred hours of total time (basically none of which is PIC) under their belt. Nobody bats an eye.

I’m sure the 24 year-old RJ skipper who was doing 3-5 legs a day in and out of blizzards and thunderstorms in ORD, CLT, DEN and LGA can handle it.
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Old 01-22-2023, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastpilot View Post
NB A is definitely harder than WB A. The NATS are about easy as they come. WATRS is way more difficult. The guy doing 4 legs a day, deicing, holding, diverting, dodging storms in the summer, etc. is a whole lot harder than getting a selcal check at 30W. Not sure why people think the NATS is this complex impossible feat that only more experienced pilots will understand.
It’s easy until you have to get off the track for some reason. Then it’s a free for all and navigating by TCAS. Good luck getting a clearance you want.

That’s got nothing to do with age though.
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