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01-22-2023, 02:11 PM

#41

Trip7

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I heard the Aircraft Commander that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima was 25. I'm pretty sure well trained 24 and 25 yr olds can handle a 767 to Europe/South America/Africa

01-22-2023, 02:18 PM

#42

Klondike Bear

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Originally Posted by Trip7

I heard the Aircraft Commander that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima was 25. I'm pretty sure well trained 24 and 25 yr olds can handle a 767 to Europe/South America/Africa

Paul Tibbetts was 30 when he dropped Little Boy.

Charles Sweeney who dropped Fat Man on Nagasaki was 25. I had to look that one up.

01-22-2023, 02:35 PM

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DeltaboundRedux

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Nah, it’ll be fine.

We learn by doing.

01-22-2023, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Apophenia

There’s 23 year olds flying Eagles and Super Hornets with only a couple hundred hours of total time (basically none of which is PIC) under their belt. Nobody bats an eye.

I’m sure the 24 year-old RJ skipper who was doing 3-5 legs a day in and out of blizzards and thunderstorms in ORD, CLT, DEN and LGA can handle it.

Point of order. Quite a bit of those couple hundred hours is PIC.

01-22-2023, 02:49 PM

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Eddiewouldgo

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I heard delta hired someone with zero PIC as a “favor” and then made him a check airman as soon as he had the required flight time. That can’t be true…….

01-22-2023, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

They are according to the FAA. Are you suggesting the FAA change the terminology?

They probably should. Nobody is “commanding” an airliner these days. Managing, sure.

01-22-2023, 03:03 PM

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interceptorpilo

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Originally Posted by jaxsurf

They probably should. Nobody is “commanding” an airliner these days. Managing, sure.

I see your point but 100% disagree. When the sh** hits the fan - the PI COMMAND is in command and is held to blame with whatever happens.

01-22-2023, 03:12 PM

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marcal

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Originally Posted by jaxsurf

They probably should. Nobody is “commanding” an airliner these days. Managing, sure.

100% disagree. You either are not a Captain, or, fundamentally doing and thinking about it completely wrong if you are.

You may be tactful, but you’re still in command.

01-22-2023, 03:15 PM

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JamesBond

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Originally Posted by Fastpilot

NB A is definitely harder than WB A. The NATS are about easy as they come. WATRS is way more difficult. The guy doing 4 legs a day, deicing, holding, diverting, dodging storms in the summer, etc. is a whole lot harder than getting a selcal check at 30W. Not sure why people think the NATS is this complex impossible feat that only more experienced pilots will understand.

They have dumbed down the NATS and transAtlantic flying to the point where it isn't any harder than a transcon. As a matter of fact, it is probably much easier.