Language Errata
01-28-2023 | 09:39 AM
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01-28-2023 | 01:41 PM
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Anyone else notice that our “min calendar day” is not really min calendar day? It only goes toward ADG if not on hard block time. Great if they were abusing you on 3/4 days with a 30 hour but useless if you’re only at 18:30 block on a four day with a thirty hour layover.
01-28-2023 | 06:53 PM
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Anyone else notice that our “min calendar day” is not really min calendar day? It only goes toward ADG if not on hard block time. Great if they were abusing you on 3/4 days with a 30 hour but useless if you’re only at 18:30 block on a four day with a thirty hour layover.
01-28-2023 | 06:59 PM
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Anyone else notice that our “min calendar day” is not really min calendar day? It only goes toward ADG if not on hard block time. Great if they were abusing you on 3/4 days with a 30 hour but useless if you’re only at 18:30 block on a four day with a thirty hour layover.
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01-28-2023 | 07:31 PM
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Anyone else notice that our “min calendar day” is not really min calendar day? It only goes toward ADG if not on hard block time. Great if they were abusing you on 3/4 days with a 30 hour but useless if you’re only at 18:30 block on a four day with a thirty hour layover.
01-29-2023 | 02:23 AM
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If you are at 18:30 block on 3 days, other new rigs will most likely kick in.
01-29-2023 | 03:39 AM
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Anyone else notice that our “min calendar day” is not really min calendar day? It only goes toward ADG if not on hard block time. Great if they were abusing you on 3/4 days with a 30 hour but useless if you’re only at 18:30 block on a four day with a thirty hour layover.
01-29-2023 | 04:45 AM
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Nobody seems sure how this will really be implemented. Some people I've talked to say the trip soak is as any other open time trip and it is designated as premium when it is assigned as a SS. I am trying to get clarification but since the language isn't written yet, who knows? All I hear is that it will be corrected. When and what has not been answered.
01-30-2023 | 06:48 AM
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Great catch indeed! I was actually just having this discussion with a co-pilot and we were going back and forth (he’s a no). I told him one of the reasons I went from undecided to yes was because of the 48 hr SS soak. While not perfect it’s a good limiting principle and one of the most important pieces of language in the whole TA.
And now it’s apparently not there. That’s what I get for being lazy and reading the NN and not the actual language.
Question to Viper: Did the union give you a timeline on the language fix? I’m not voting yes due to a promise on APC (not directed at you). Also does this mess up our retro? How can we have seen the language for 45 days if the language has to change?
And now it’s apparently not there. That’s what I get for being lazy and reading the NN and not the actual language.
Question to Viper: Did the union give you a timeline on the language fix? I’m not voting yes due to a promise on APC (not directed at you). Also does this mess up our retro? How can we have seen the language for 45 days if the language has to change?
There were people within a week of the AIP NN, myself included, who were stating this was exactly how it was supposed/intended to work, based on conversations with Reps/Negotiators. Again, the intent is to “lessen the suck”, not to pay you more. IOW, it’s a rotation construction improvement, and one of the better ones at that.
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