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Old 06-14-2023 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
Fun fact. I love the 717 and won’t be leaving. My QOL is way better than what I experienced when RG ruined the 320. My $30-40k a year paycut (I can hold every NBA easily in every base) is worth it to avoid the suck created during RG’s tenure. So take your condescending tone somewhere else. You are finding reasons that don’t exist for why we feel the way we feel about RG.
Well looks like we are both happy Widget Pilots with opposite outlooks. Love the 73 and won't be leaving anytime soon.
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Old 06-14-2023 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Well looks like we are both happy Widget Pilots with opposite outlooks. Love the 73 and won't be leaving anytime soon.
Im happy now. Afraid of what may come with RG. Deflect all you want. You won’t paint a happy narrative here. This is a loss for the pilot group. Maybe not a big one, but it’s a loss. Putting someone in charge who has no respect for us is wrong. Putting someone in charge who a majority don’t respect is wrong. Whoever put him in that position is out to lunch.
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Old 06-14-2023 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
Im happy now. Afraid of what may come with RG. Deflect all you want. You won’t paint a happy narrative here. This is a loss for the pilot group. Maybe not a big one, but it’s a loss. Putting someone in charge who has no respect for us is wrong. Putting someone in charge who a majority don’t respect is wrong. Whoever put him in that position is out to lunch.
That's your opinion. IMO RG is not the bogeyman. Nor was JL. Nor was JG. Nor was SD. Time will tell who's outlook was right. Let's revisit this in a year or two.
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Old 06-14-2023 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Well looks like we are both happy Widget Pilots with opposite outlooks. Love the 73 and won't be leaving anytime soon.
aren’t you commuting to NY to avoid the trips in the base where you live?
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Old 06-14-2023 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
That's your opinion. IMO RG is not the bogeyman. Nor was JL. Nor was JG. Nor was SD. Time will tell who's outlook was right. Let's revisit this in a year or two.
It’s tough to revisit it in a year or two. You view things through a different lens. You look at W2 and profit sharing. I find that stuff important but I feel like, based on your posts, QOL is way more important to me than you. That’s where we lose.

I suggest to you a great read, The Reckoning by David Halberstam.

“It is a historical overview of the auto industry in the United States and Japan, with a focus on Ford and Nissan. In a well-researched and very readable narrative, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author chronicles the personalities and company politics that decided the key issues.”

The parallels are shocking.
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Old 06-14-2023 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
I’ll note that appointing someone to middle management to be the proverbial “sheet” magnet is a tried and true method to deflect attention from the top brass. It works.

“If only the Tsar knew”, as it were.
It’s all class war?


always has been.
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Old 06-14-2023 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
It’s tough to revisit it in a year or two. You view things through a different lens. You look at W2 and profit sharing. I find that stuff important but I feel like, based on your posts, QOL is way more important to me than you. That’s where we lose.

I suggest to you a great read, The Reckoning by David Halberstam.

“It is a historical overview of the auto industry in the United States and Japan, with a focus on Ford and Nissan. In a well-researched and very readable narrative, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author chronicles the personalities and company politics that decided the key issues.”

The parallels are shocking.
You couldn't be more wrong. QOL is extremely to me. I bid in NYC for better seniority in order to minimize my days away from home in ATL. W2 and PS are just vehicles that help on the path to Financial Freedom.
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Old 06-14-2023 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
aren’t you commuting to NY to avoid the trips in the base where you live?
I bid NYC. I don't commute to NYC except once in a while to fly a GS if I want to make extra scratch.
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I fly ATL 0 Rotations majority of my trips.
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Old 06-14-2023 | 11:32 AM
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You couldn't be more wrong. QOL is extremely to me. I bid in NYC for better seniority in order to minimize my days away from home in ATL. W2 and PS are just vehicles that help on the path to Financial Freedom.
Not to be obtuse, but I understand you less now.
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Old 06-14-2023 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
That's your opinion. IMO RG is not the bogeyman. Nor was JL. Nor was JG. Nor was SD. Time will tell whose outlook was right. Let's revisit this in a year or two.
Well…who is the bogeyman? Who’s responsible for the way things are now? Record GS, record fatigue calls, most categories understaffed, horrible domestic rotations, etc. Someone is responsible. And you’ve absolved pretty much all of Flt Ops leadership.
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