Originally Posted by ancman

Now that’s funny

Originally Posted by badflaps

Plenty of 9E's at TYS/ATL

Originally Posted by TED74

Don't be a dummy. I was an early adopter of the single breasted jacket, and am probably as anti-management as one can be - which is just as irrelevant the totality of your comment. You can feel free to put something in quotes that has no connection to what I said if it helps you make a pseudo-witty post, but I'd encourage you to use your brain a little more and consider reading posts you want to comment on.

I don't want my reps wasting thier limited time/energy/budget trying to make pass travel "fair" for our work group plus the 85,000 other employees the company would feel obligated to include. It's not possible - not because it's not how we have always done it, but beause precedence is real and changing the policy mid-stream is complicated. Some families have eight kids. Some have none. Some families have three Delta employees but get the same benefits as a family with one. Some employees haven't had living parents for decades, others have had four for decades. Some employees had kids who died and now have grandkids. Personally, I think adding tens or hundreds of thousands of additional eligible pass riders into the mix is a bad idea. That why I, you know, shared my opnion about what I do and don't want my reps to advocate for.

Any chance you have an opinion on the subject at hand? Care to add anything meaningful to the conversation? I thought that's what food for thought was. If the poster wants "food for supporting my opnion" he or she can just ask for that. If you don't like reading contrarian views, the internet is an odd place to spend your free time. You might be better served by gooning more instead.

Originally Posted by Gooner

I don’t think I was the one belittling a new idea for tweaking non rev benefits by condescendingly telling them life isn’t fair. Now I will admit that usually I agree with much of what you post. I just really hate when someone is condescending, particularly when they imply the issue is nuanced and difficult so we should just not try.

I for one like nonrev benefits but also admit they feel watered down and would probably put it in top 5 of issues to at least spending some time on in the next contract. One of the four pillars, no but it’s something I’d like to be looked into. My opinion would be to get annual spirit passes for at least employee plus one, have them bank so people with larger families can use it but less often.

Guess I need to go write a proposal to fix the ADA now since we are spitballing ideas about non rev change on the internet.

Originally Posted by ancman

An HK is a passenger with confirmed space on a flight. They are NOT standby passengers, which is one of the most common Delta non-rev misconceptions.

An HK can only be bumped from a flight if the flight is oversold, all passengers have checked in, and an insufficient number of passengers volunteer for denied boarding compensation (a highly unusual scenario). Positive space commuting has absolutely no effect on them.

Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux

HK = "Hope Killers"

Originally Posted by OOfff

Kinda out of date since they’re in the seat count now

Originally Posted by TED74

Fair enough. Poor choice of words on my part and I need to work on my delivery. In the end, though, “life isn’t fair” is probably the most efficient way I can sum up the challenges to “improving” a benefit that I don’t think will ever resemble the proposal. Allowing tens of thousands of employees to assign a benefit to any person - and specifically one whom the employee thinks could get the most use out of it -
would in my not so humble opinion wreak havoc on an already degraded benefit. Y’all can hash out all the intricacies, but I’m confident it won’t look significantly different a decade from now no matter what campaign you pull together.

Originally Posted by Gooner

You’ve got Delta management written all over you. “That’s the way we’ve always done it.” Biggest pain at this company. Let me guess, you like the double breasted jacket and can’t imagine some one else wanting the single breasted jacket.