It's all luck why should you get more seniority based on the day your parents did the deed?

 

or because you waited longer than someone else to get your logbook together and show up at a job fair

 

No one is advocating for a list wide retroactive application of this. Just within a NH class. Older pilots have less time at the company so a small advantage isolated to within one class is something I feel is fair and support and would vote for.

That’s about as far as I philosophically take it. And unlike so many in the SSN/random crowd for some reason, it’s not a hill to die on for me. FWIW, had this been the case in my class, it wouldn’t have made a difference as I ended up with almost exactly the same class seniority. While there were younger pilots senior to me there were older ones junior to me so by total coincidence my age/SSN either way would have been pretty much identical.

I just think it’s the better way to do it. The next best way would be date of interview. The next would be a truly random on the spot number generator (or even picking out of a hat) as SSN is set at birth (practically speaking for most) just like age is, so where is the cosmic justice in that if we’re trying to plead to our parents that our sibling got more cookies than we did or whatever the argument is.

I wouldn’t support any retroactive change, I just think age is a better way to do in class seniority because the older pilots will retire first so they have less time here and the younger pilots will all still be there after they are gone. (Medical retirements notwithstanding).

 

Not at all but I sometimes you see some move from ATL. I do expect to see the A side backfilled though.


Standard schoolhouse rumor I heard was there was a an age discrimination lawsuit or they wanted to avoid the threat of one. Probably BS, but its logical in our litigious society. I know AAL did it by age with no issues. As one of the youngest in my class, I agree that it should be age.

 

a ssn is (functionally) just as random as an on-the-spot random number generator. why does it matter when it was determined?

 

why should a randomly generated government number be any better? A true lottery would be little ping pong balls in a bin like the NBA

 

how would that be more random than a ssn?

 

it would be funner.

 

Flt Ops podcast on fleet planning last month(?) said retired by 2030 with drawdown as early as 2028. No direct replacement, rather they’ll be replaced by other NB deliveries. I’d imagine they’d be gone tomorrow if we could get deliveries.

Its all relative, one man’s trash is another’s treasure.. Pretty commutable trips even on the junior end. Fairly consistent movement as well due to people breaking the seat lock after one year, as shown on this AE.

 

I mean yeah that’s exactly how my footprint went but that doesn’t make it an easy aircraft for somebody stuck on it from the West Coast.