Delta 56 Severe Turbulence
08-07-2025 | 02:24 AM
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have to? 1 maybe 2 minutes max. But some people just can’t keep a brief, ya know, brief. Our briefing guide goes over a bunch of stuff that should be considered just part of our job, and some people feel like that means they need to brief it.
Semi related we also are required to brief aborts and go arounds every crew pairing. And aborts are not standard and up to the CA on who does what. That was absolutely bonkers to learn when I got here.
Semi related we also are required to brief aborts and go arounds every crew pairing. And aborts are not standard and up to the CA on who does what. That was absolutely bonkers to learn when I got here.
08-07-2025 | 03:55 AM
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If I were in charge of training and flight standards standardizing aborts would be better one of my first changes. I have a feeling it's coming after all the abort incidents we've had in recent years. Big presentation from T&S on evacuations about to be distributed to the pilot group as well
08-07-2025 | 05:10 AM
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08-07-2025 | 06:35 AM
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At ASA folks got so used to saying Standard Aborts many Captains forgot what standard aborts were. For example, we had a "Darwin Award winning" Captain (Chief Pilot's words not mine😂
abort above 80 kts for and Antiskid master caution
08-07-2025 | 09:42 AM
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Just going by the odds, if one never aborts, better chance of being ‘correct’. Then high speed it’s even simplified, no need to go beyond fire or failure. After that, I’ll take my 3 seconds.
If you think of it, even with a fire light(any) are the engines working normally?
Maybe I’m a little simple myself. High speed rejects can get very nasty.
If you think of it, even with a fire light(any) are the engines working normally?
Maybe I’m a little simple myself. High speed rejects can get very nasty.
08-07-2025 | 10:08 AM
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If I were in charge of training and flight standards standardizing aborts would be better one of my first changes. I have a feeling it's coming after all the abort incidents we've had in recent years. Big presentation from T&S on evacuations about to be distributed to the pilot group as well
-request ARFF for any fire indication or any abort above 80 should be standard. (And can we get away from “roll the trucks”)
08-07-2025 | 11:50 AM
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It SHOULD be standard, yes. The reason for briefing it at the start of a trip is to reinforce and bring to top of mind, much like an engine failure. Multiple human factors studies have shown the benefit of performance in these scenarios if they were briefed vs the lazy “standard brief” nonsense.
08-07-2025 | 01:04 PM
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It SHOULD be standard, yes. The reason for briefing it at the start of a trip is to reinforce and bring to top of mind, much like an engine failure. Multiple human factors studies have shown the benefit of performance in these scenarios if they were briefed vs the lazy “standard brief” nonsense.
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