I’ll try and refrain from jumping into this fray more than I already have as this is a fait accompli and I’m clearly in the minority to even question this MOU. I also won’t pretend to speak for notenuf, but I think we all view this through the lens of our own personal situation.

For me there is clearly an upside to this via the sick leave provisions, but the downside is not zero it is unknown at this point. Just from my personal perspective: I bid reserve and that’s probably all I will ever bid. To a reserve a QS is just a worse GS; you don’t benefit from the lack of trigger and there’s no auto accept. IF and I admit it’s just an if, the company uses QS to cut down not just on IAs but on GS as well that is absolutely a bad thing to a person in my situation. Yes it would cost the company more, but never underestimate the human nature of taking the path of least resistance. If CS can smash a button and go on coffee break they will.

Again I probably would have voted in favor of this (didn’t get the chance of course) but to say there is no downside is factually not correct, we won’t know until we get the data on how they use these new slips.

Break…..Break….

I argued in another post that there should be a time restriction on QS and didn’t really see that addressed in the FAQ, but am I reading it correctly that QS can’t be assigned outside of 8 hours to report because it requires a 23m7 payment and that has an 8 hour restriction? If that’s correct that will alleviate a lot of my concerns (although I think the time limit should be even lower).

 

When is our sick lookback going to be adjusted? I see it’s supposed to adjusted from July.

 

My August, September and October lookback went away (160 hours worth) but im not sure if that was the LOA or Pilot Leaves finally got around to processing my doctor's note (over 100 hours in one sick removed from lookback with Dr note provided at your expense) that they've been sitting on for weeks.

 

Thanks, mine still shows looks like. I’m sure it will take Delta IT another 6 months to get that fixed.

 

My lookback from August and October is still showing.

There are no downsides to this deal. The company is still paying triple pay for skipping GS step. We just brought some order to the free-for-all. They’re now paying quadruple pay if they use the FCFS model. The IA nuisance phone calls are now going to be QS nuisance phone calls but at least we can opt out of them. Ultra senior pilots can still get 23.M.7 pay with just a GS or WS. The only pilots that lose are the ones that were actually flying Inverse Assignments out of order. There will still be pilots losing a GS to QS, but that was happening anyway.

This needed to be done.

 

I'm with you. I'm not a huge fan of this MOU. I believe their should have been a time limit. such as you can only use the QS step within 2 hour of report. In addition, there should have been some type of language that forces the company to at least try and run trip coverage. We complain now about how a trip sits in open time all night, scheduling doesn't even try to run coverage beyond maybe OOBWS, then they let it sit their for hours and send it out as an IA in the morning. I feel like that will continue to happen except it'll be QS instead of IA.

I also don't consider the no lookback and QCHP as a win. The company already agreed to that in a grievance settlement, which they then violated. I don't like that we had to negotiate further for them to honor a previous agreement they made. Let's see if they even honor it this time.

Ultimately, I just fear we will be sitting here in a year saying "we didn't think they'd do that while they find some way to abuse this" while the company abuses this somehow.

 

Yeah, we probably should’ve just done nothing and let the rampant IAs and dealmaking continue.

 

I agree in that there’s no timeline for them to cover trips. I saw more than 10 trips in OT sitting for 2 days in NY320A this weekend. I could’ve done some of those GS, because I would’ve been able to commute.

They sat there for 2 days, to then have my phone blowing up during the night for 3 IA for those trips. Or sometimes they will run 1 GS at a time. Some of them had DH in the front or back that would’ve made my life easier to pick it up.

What I like of this MOU is the sick look back an that now I might have a chance to get a QS before a Jr Guy makes a deal with scheduling. I’ve got burned several times this last previous months, didn’t made about 40-50k approximately. Maybe less, because probably someone senior than me would’ve pick the GS, butttttt I did not had a chance to try to get the rotations.

 

Here’s the downside.

They’ll never run GS. Why would they? It’s slow and more effort. So it gets skipped. Same top person gets 23M7. Instead they go straight to the single-batch no-auto-accept, no acknowledgment step, which is QS.

If you want to fly premium, you’ll have to be inconvenienced by spam calls 20x before you get a trip.

Sure they pay triple for that. But they’ve already demonstrated they don’t mind doing that.

This only fixes the problem of free for all IAs ignoring seniority. It doesn’t fix trip coverage.

 

I would have been ok letting it go into contract negotiations. The broken trip coverage system is probably our largest bargaining chip. The quick slips by no means fix the system, but it helps. It's just my opinion, but I believe we gave the company a big win here and we could have and should have gotten more in return.