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11-02-2025 | 07:32 AM
#201
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Well other than solving a manufactured crisis for the company, I will have to make a choice between premium pay and QOL that I never had to. We lost negotiating capital for a poor solution and gave up QOL if you were a GS auto accept user. The company is once again incentivized to reinvent the processes and norms we knew as normal PWA apparatus. Instead of defending precedent we rewrite them into compliance. Again.
I genuinely don't think you read the agreement and if you did, you don't understand it
11-02-2025 | 07:37 AM
#202
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Here’s the downside.
They’ll never run GS. Why would they? It’s slow and more effort. So it gets skipped. Same top person gets 23M7. Instead they go straight to the single-batch no-auto-accept, no acknowledgment step, which is QS.
If you want to fly premium, you’ll have to be inconvenienced by spam calls 20x before you get a trip.
Sure they pay triple for that. But they’ve already demonstrated they don’t mind doing that.
This only fixes the problem of free for all IAs ignoring seniority. It doesn’t fix trip coverage.
They’ll never run GS. Why would they? It’s slow and more effort. So it gets skipped. Same top person gets 23M7. Instead they go straight to the single-batch no-auto-accept, no acknowledgment step, which is QS.
If you want to fly premium, you’ll have to be inconvenienced by spam calls 20x before you get a trip.
Sure they pay triple for that. But they’ve already demonstrated they don’t mind doing that.
This only fixes the problem of free for all IAs ignoring seniority. It doesn’t fix trip coverage.
11-02-2025 | 07:41 AM
#203
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Well other than solving a manufactured crisis for the company, I will have to make a choice between premium pay and QOL that I never had to. We lost negotiating capital for a poor solution and gave up QOL if you were a GS auto accept user. The company is once again incentivized to reinvent the processes and norms we knew as normal PWA apparatus. Instead of defending precedent we rewrite them into compliance. Again.
they were already skipping it, so the “they just won’t run green slips” argument falls pretty flat
11-02-2025 | 07:42 AM
#204
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The problem from the company’s perspective wasn’t the IAs, it was auto-accept. And we gave up nothing on that. There’s just now order to the chaos that honors seniority and should end most of the deal making. IAs were already the easy button. We have just replaced it with something more palatable to most of the pilot group. We still have a bunch of leverage because the company is having to pay 3x to cover trips in many cases.
11-02-2025 | 07:43 AM
#205
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Here’s the downside.
They’ll never run GS. Why would they? It’s slow and more effort. So it gets skipped. Same top person gets 23M7. Instead they go straight to the single-batch no-auto-accept, no acknowledgment step, which is QS.
If you want to fly premium, you’ll have to be inconvenienced by spam calls 20x before you get a trip.
Sure they pay triple for that. But they’ve already demonstrated they don’t mind doing that.
This only fixes the problem of free for all IAs ignoring seniority. It doesn’t fix trip coverage.
They’ll never run GS. Why would they? It’s slow and more effort. So it gets skipped. Same top person gets 23M7. Instead they go straight to the single-batch no-auto-accept, no acknowledgment step, which is QS.
If you want to fly premium, you’ll have to be inconvenienced by spam calls 20x before you get a trip.
Sure they pay triple for that. But they’ve already demonstrated they don’t mind doing that.
This only fixes the problem of free for all IAs ignoring seniority. It doesn’t fix trip coverage.
11-02-2025 | 07:43 AM
#206
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we basically made an ia step that will follow seniority order and be traceable instead of a free-for-all. that’s a good change
11-02-2025 | 07:46 AM
#207
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3x hasn't been a deterrent yet, but we can hope.
11-02-2025 | 07:46 AM
#208
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Nothing got easier for them. They were already skipping to IA whenever they felt the urge, now it will just be a QS instead, with the same cost to them. There's no incentive for them to use it any more often than they already are using IAs. This isn't going to change auto accept, and their costs aren't going to go down.
11-02-2025 | 07:49 AM
#209
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11-02-2025 | 07:56 AM
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