I told you already. Do you think the average line pilot thinks the 23M7 usage currently taking place knows that it is compliant and that this MOU did nothing to change that? Was the objective to end the practice that goes against precedent or reenforce the legal system?

 

Until they run out of reserves, they still use 23m7 to skip directly to SC all the time. Look at daily trip coverage and see how many reserves have been assigned same-day.

 

so did the mou write it into compliance or do nothing to stop noncompliance?

 

A CP absolutely cannot tell you what Doc to use. What "doc" a pilot chooses to use, and why, is completely up to them. The CP also must tell you the reason(s) they, in good faith, have to ask what your illness is in general terms.

And again, if they only - or nearly so - GFB pilots over 120, that's a dead giveaway they are not acting in good faith. It's hard to imagine a more obvious 'hand in the cookie jar' moment with the system board.

My understanding is when they previously did a GFB-pallooza, they found almost everyone was able to verify, and so abandoned the effort due to cost per 'failed note' (which only results in not getting paid for the absence).

I just don't see GFB as a viable substitute for the verification window. Quite the opposite, in fact, since a "zoom doc/NP/PA" isn't hard to find and produce a note. And once you are past 3 days (or successful GFB note), there is literally zero disincentive to NOT stay out longer. Especially as May rolls around. [For the record, I'm not encouraging anything, just observing human behavior]

No, I think they get the QS programmed NLT this spring...

 

Because auto accept OOBWS takes too long

 

Like I asked before, so why have the grievance process if this is your problem?

A grievance is writing the company into compliance + a penalty

 

CS staffing and lack of automation is the problem. This was never an issue when each person was called individually. The excessive use of 23M7 creating the farming industry is also the problem. They brought this on themselves.

 

I’ll say it again slowly. Even if you automate it, it still takes 12 minutes per OOBWS auto accepter. That would take 40 hours if only 10% of the 320 category has one in. Automation would do nothing for that problem, nor would CS staffing.

 

They can't demand you use teledoc but they sure can suggest it. That will be enough. Every GFB has a contrived good faith reason. They found more than enough in the past. I think they even had a list like within a few days of VAC, after a drop fail, after a RES assignment etc. They will find something to justify it just as they did in the past. The 120 is not a magical number in fact it really only applies to people who have had a major healthcare issue AFTER they get well. Never underestimate the company's willingness to press to test.

 

It wasn’t a problem before because there was a relatively smaller amount of open time to cover, staffing wasn’t nearly as short, vacation and training not worth as much, and as a result, less premium time, leading to people aggressively accepting what was offered, and there was no 10 minute window inside 3 hours to report.

The MOU wasn’t meant to fix the M7 program. It was meant to fix sick calls and bringing some semblance of order to the IA drama that has unfolded.

None of this would be a problem if there wasn’t as much open time. No one as been able to explain where it’s coming from.