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Old 12-02-2025 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by All 5 Stages
My prediction: Quick Slips to never come to fruition. Why would they dump money -- large or small -- into this? It doesn't lower the cost of covering trips. I don't think suspending QHCP look back is going to move the company to implement QS faster.

Like Oofff said ... the company doesn't care which pilot gets paid -- we do.

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We also don't have to accept IA's in their current use either --- yet we do. They were never intended to be used in the manner they are being used now by CS. They tell us that it's because of "auto-accept" or whatever.

In this current checkers game they're playing it's quite simple - put your slips in, turn on auto-accept and when the robot calls for the IA ignore it. But we can't seem to do that. IA's are a defacto proffer now, we don't HAVE to take them. The scummy deal makers will still make deals. That's for DALPA to address. However, the fact many are taking the IA "proffer" takes away leverage. You want your GS/WS etc, don't call back for the IA. If more do this it ends this pretty quick and gives us leverage to use. Sometimes this pilot group is its own worse enemy.
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Old 12-02-2025 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis
Is anyone asking where all this open time is coming from?
I have a theory…it involves us not hiring anyone in 6+ months
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Old 12-02-2025 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolf424
I have a theory…it involves us not hiring anyone in 6+ months
Blasphemy!
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Old 12-02-2025 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolf424
I have a theory…it involves us not hiring anyone in 6+ months
The contract requires that all flying that the company knows about be put in the bid package. So how does all the open time manifest between the bid awards and the helmet fire that seems to start 2 days prior?
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Old 12-02-2025 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
for some reason we had to re-codify? because the company wasn't in compliance?

That sounds like rewriting to make them compliant. So was the original codification not adequate? Was that original negotiation for naught?
yeah, sometimes you have a disagreement about what the terms are and need clarity. that’s what this seems like to me. so again, since you’ve used the phrase so many times, what actions by the company that were illegal before are not under the new agreement?
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Old 12-02-2025 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
No, it must have been explored. What did we get? And why was it necessary to happen when and as it did?
it may not have been necessary.

i’m not arguing that the method by which this mou passed was or wasn’t right.

i’m arguing the idea that we should have gotten more or a different outcome, and what leverage we have to effect that.
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Old 12-02-2025 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey
Why file grievances then?
Why agree to no solution? What was the urgency if we don't get the fix until some time in the future, if at all, as determined by the aforementioned non-comply-er?
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Old 12-02-2025 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
it may not have been necessary.

i’m not arguing that the method by which this mou passed was or wasn’t right.

i’m arguing the idea that we should have gotten more or a different outcome, and what leverage we have to effect that.
I'm arguing we will never know because we already "solved" the problem. And the fog of numbers isn't even enough to start the conversation. It was a rush to do "something" when we didn't need to do anything. And got nothing, except an ALPA endorsement of the current practice and a pinky swear.
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Old 12-02-2025 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolf424
I have a theory…it involves us not hiring anyone in 6+ months
Anyone know where to find the published TLVs? I thought they used to be in crew resources, but deltanet2.0 has it buried.
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Old 12-02-2025 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank Grimes
If only 5% of the 320 pilots have an oobws auto accept in, it’s something like 40 hours to go through that step of coverage alone. Tell me how does CS cover a trip in a timely matter with that?
Auto accept is the problem. CS is now using loopholes to get around the problem. They need to fill the trips somehow.
CS has several ways to solve that:

1) Give out VAS. Especially with forecast IROP weather.
2) Give out more SC 7+ to those who request it, especially with forecast IROP weather.
3) Assign GS two days out, instead of breaking them up and using up 3 RES pilots with double DH to cover a multi day trip.
4) Give out more SS weeks in advance when you see thin reserve manning
5) Give out more PBS premium rotations a month in advance when you see thin manning
6) Offer premium reserve days in advance when you see thin manning
7) Run automated coverage faster so at least **some** of those trips can be properly covered 12 hours out instead of sitting unattended and being pushed into emergency coverage.
8) Hire more (pilots and schedulers).

Should I go on? Auto accept is not the problem.
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