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#2161
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The same set of circumstances that is causing the current failure in trip coverage is the exact same as what caused the rampant batch size violations 3 years ago. The only thing different between now and then is who's getting paid and the better M7 tracking we have now.
It's almost like history repeats itself.
And for those who think M7 wasn't used a ton 3 or 4 years ago --- you are wrong. They were simply getting away of not paying anyone unless a pilot submitted a report to the union. And there was no "list" for fellow pilots to get all angry about who is getting a better deal than them.
#2162
Again, how about some intellectual honesty here. To those of you complaining about someone junior getting an IA, you need to take a look around you at the pilots causing this. The more senior pilots are the ones that are farming M7, causing the trip coverage ladder to clog, and causing the company to go to IA. The mid tier pilots are the ones being most harmed. But if you’re upset with the junior pilots getting the IA, your anger or frustration is misplaced. Are the M7 farmers acting within their contractural rights? Sure. Are they acting in good faith? I’d say no.
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#2170
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From: New Hire DL
I apologize if this rant has already been posted here, there's just too much to comb through. I'm noticing that QS's are probably going to have the biggest impact on pilots of my position. The Juniorish Commuter. I sit in the 70's percentile in base and commute. If I understand QS's correctly, I think they're going to have the same impact on me the way IA's currently do, just from the other direction.
Let's just use rough made up math and say in a month there's 100 trips that need to be covered by premium flying. In the past that might mean 90/100 of those trips go out as a GS and I usually end up getting my GS sometime in the back half of the month. The other 10 went out as an IA.
As it stands today that might be something more like 50/100 of those trips go out as a GS and the other 50 go out as an IA. Now obviously as a commuter that's 50 IA trips I'm unable to pick up because I wouldn't make it in time. The result of that being 50 or so less trips that filled up GS's senior to me. AKA I don't end up seeing any green slips at the back half of the month anymore.
What I'm seeing with QS's is a plug and play of the IA just from the other direction if I understand them correctly. Now 50 seniors get their GS but they will also get their crack at 50 QS's, thus GS's still not reaching me the way they used to. And yes of course there's seniors to me that are also commuters, this is just rough math. There's always going to be less GS's in the pot whether IA or QS and the Junior Commuter feels that the most.
Anyway, thats my TED talk and I'd love to be visualizing this wrong so please chime in. And obligatory yes I've tried being more senior while also understanding commuting is a choice
Let's just use rough made up math and say in a month there's 100 trips that need to be covered by premium flying. In the past that might mean 90/100 of those trips go out as a GS and I usually end up getting my GS sometime in the back half of the month. The other 10 went out as an IA.
As it stands today that might be something more like 50/100 of those trips go out as a GS and the other 50 go out as an IA. Now obviously as a commuter that's 50 IA trips I'm unable to pick up because I wouldn't make it in time. The result of that being 50 or so less trips that filled up GS's senior to me. AKA I don't end up seeing any green slips at the back half of the month anymore.
What I'm seeing with QS's is a plug and play of the IA just from the other direction if I understand them correctly. Now 50 seniors get their GS but they will also get their crack at 50 QS's, thus GS's still not reaching me the way they used to. And yes of course there's seniors to me that are also commuters, this is just rough math. There's always going to be less GS's in the pot whether IA or QS and the Junior Commuter feels that the most.
Anyway, thats my TED talk and I'd love to be visualizing this wrong so please chime in. And obligatory yes I've tried being more senior while also understanding commuting is a choice
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