Delta Pilot Intimidation
01-18-2026 | 07:48 AM
#202
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I don't want to contribute to any thread drift, but in my time here I feel like it has been a slow, but steady decline toward old-school regional airline conditions. I left the regionals 20 years ago, but here we are dealing with threatening letters over sick time ("dependability program", anyone?), terrible trip construction, scheduling.....shenanigans, etc.
Here's an honest question: What do we do to prevent further decline in to post 9/11 regional airline conditions? Because I was there and I don't like what I'm seeing.
Here's an honest question: What do we do to prevent further decline in to post 9/11 regional airline conditions? Because I was there and I don't like what I'm seeing.
The regional model inherently gave management the upper hand. Management could divide pilots into a virtually unlimited number of groups, shuffling flying around to the most compliant / lowest paid. Pilots didn’t want to rock the boat as much, because 90% had no intention of staying where they were.
Those factors don’t exist at this level. We have far greater control, and more leverage available to defend the profession.
01-18-2026 | 07:51 AM
#203
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We fight back.
The regional model inherently gave management the upper hand. Management could divide pilots into a virtually unlimited number of groups, shuffling flying around to the most compliant / lowest paid. Pilots didn’t want to rock the boat as much, because 90% had no intention of staying where they were.
Those factors don’t exist at this level. We have far greater control, and more leverage available to defend the profession.
The regional model inherently gave management the upper hand. Management could divide pilots into a virtually unlimited number of groups, shuffling flying around to the most compliant / lowest paid. Pilots didn’t want to rock the boat as much, because 90% had no intention of staying where they were.
Those factors don’t exist at this level. We have far greater control, and more leverage available to defend the profession.
I'll withhold further comment on the matter until I see the MEC's rebuttal letter to this recent sick use double secret probation intimidation letter.
Last edited by Hotel Kilo; 01-18-2026 at 08:06 AM.
01-18-2026 | 07:52 AM
#204
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We fight back.
The regional model inherently gave management the upper hand. Management could divide pilots into a virtually unlimited number of groups, shuffling flying around to the most compliant / lowest paid. Pilots didn’t want to rock the boat as much, because 90% had no intention of staying where they were.
Those factors don’t exist at this level. We have far greater control, and more leverage available to defend the profession.
The regional model inherently gave management the upper hand. Management could divide pilots into a virtually unlimited number of groups, shuffling flying around to the most compliant / lowest paid. Pilots didn’t want to rock the boat as much, because 90% had no intention of staying where they were.
Those factors don’t exist at this level. We have far greater control, and more leverage available to defend the profession.
01-18-2026 | 07:54 AM
#205
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From: N60.4858 W149.9327
Cold and flu season is here.
For Aviation safety, pilots should not fly following the last dose of any medications until a period of time has elapsed equal to: A. 5-times the maximum pharmacologic half-life of the medication (preferred); or B. 5-times the maximum hour dose interval if pharmacologic half-life information is not available. For example, there is a 30-hour wait time for a medication that is taken every 4 to 6 hours. If there is a range, calculate by using the higher number (e.g., 6 hours x 5 = 30 hours No Fly wait time).
https://www.faa.gov/ame_guide/media/DNI_DNF_tables.pdf
For Aviation safety, pilots should not fly following the last dose of any medications until a period of time has elapsed equal to: A. 5-times the maximum pharmacologic half-life of the medication (preferred); or B. 5-times the maximum hour dose interval if pharmacologic half-life information is not available. For example, there is a 30-hour wait time for a medication that is taken every 4 to 6 hours. If there is a range, calculate by using the higher number (e.g., 6 hours x 5 = 30 hours No Fly wait time).
https://www.faa.gov/ame_guide/media/DNI_DNF_tables.pdf
01-18-2026 | 07:59 AM
#206
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Cold and flu season is here.
For Aviation safety, pilots should not fly following the last dose of any medications until a period of time has elapsed equal to: A. 5-times the maximum pharmacologic half-life of the medication (preferred); or B. 5-times the maximum hour dose interval if pharmacologic half-life information is not available. For example, there is a 30-hour wait time for a medication that is taken every 4 to 6 hours. If there is a range, calculate by using the higher number (e.g., 6 hours x 5 = 30 hours No Fly wait time).
https://www.faa.gov/ame_guide/media/DNI_DNF_tables.pdf
For Aviation safety, pilots should not fly following the last dose of any medications until a period of time has elapsed equal to: A. 5-times the maximum pharmacologic half-life of the medication (preferred); or B. 5-times the maximum hour dose interval if pharmacologic half-life information is not available. For example, there is a 30-hour wait time for a medication that is taken every 4 to 6 hours. If there is a range, calculate by using the higher number (e.g., 6 hours x 5 = 30 hours No Fly wait time).
https://www.faa.gov/ame_guide/media/DNI_DNF_tables.pdf
01-18-2026 | 08:21 AM
#207
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From: NYC 330
Just flew into LA, the FO I was with said he and his Capt were confronted by a Chief pilot for not wearing their hats (out on the sidewalk waiting for the van).
This hat police BS and sick harassment always ends badly for the company.
However they do usually end up w hostages.
MGT pilots should be forced to give up their seniority number.
They are not on OUR side.
This hat police BS and sick harassment always ends badly for the company.
However they do usually end up w hostages.
MGT pilots should be forced to give up their seniority number.
They are not on OUR side.
01-18-2026 | 09:06 AM
#208
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Just flew into LA, the FO I was with said he and his Capt were confronted by a Chief pilot for not wearing their hats (out on the sidewalk waiting for the van).
This hat police BS and sick harassment always ends badly for the company.
However they do usually end up w hostages.
MGT pilots should be forced to give up their seniority number.
They are not on OUR side.
This hat police BS and sick harassment always ends badly for the company.
However they do usually end up w hostages.
MGT pilots should be forced to give up their seniority number.
They are not on OUR side.
01-18-2026 | 10:16 AM
#209
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Just flew into LA, the FO I was with said he and his Capt were confronted by a Chief pilot for not wearing their hats (out on the sidewalk waiting for the van).
This hat police BS and sick harassment always ends badly for the company.
However they do usually end up w hostages.
MGT pilots should be forced to give up their seniority number.
They are not on OUR side.
This hat police BS and sick harassment always ends badly for the company.
However they do usually end up w hostages.
MGT pilots should be forced to give up their seniority number.
They are not on OUR side.
01-18-2026 | 10:33 AM
#210
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From: NYC 330
I’ve found over the years that mainline pilots are a lot harder to get in line. Regional pilots are still trying to make themselves marketable for a major. Major airline pilots are just trying to not get fired. There’s a huge difference. Also the mainline union is way stronger and better funded than the regional pilot unions.
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