Delta Pilot Intimidation
02-03-2026 | 04:55 PM
#431
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From: B737 FO
Dude I really don't know. I was in there during grinstein, Anderson and a little of EB. The last SVP of flight ops I worked with was SD. I have a hunch what's going down but I will refrain as you did with my colorful language on the matter.
I think most of you folks know and you understand it. What I don't get is the continued animus towards our group. It doesn't make sense to me and is very counter productive.
We all want our airline to succeed and be a profit generating machine. We have more at stake since we are chained to this galley. It would make sense to cease and desist with this behavioral experiment they've been pushing for the last 6-7 years. It's not working.
I think most of you folks know and you understand it. What I don't get is the continued animus towards our group. It doesn't make sense to me and is very counter productive.
We all want our airline to succeed and be a profit generating machine. We have more at stake since we are chained to this galley. It would make sense to cease and desist with this behavioral experiment they've been pushing for the last 6-7 years. It's not working.
Yep.
02-03-2026 | 05:29 PM
#432
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02-03-2026 | 05:45 PM
#433
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I was lucky enough to leave a regional with an R-ATP and get hired somewhere (not here) with it. After I realized I was gonna leave again before upgrading or going through a CQ event to have it removed, I ended up getting the FSDO to do it via Zoom call after I emailed over my 25 hrs of Acting PIC paperwork and a photo ID.
It took a bit of back and forth and they finally were like "Fine, we'll do it, but we're gonna train someone new on how to do it".
Worked out. But still have that stupid CL-65 is subject to PIC limitations stuck on my cert even with a CE-680 PIC type and a 737 one now.
It took a bit of back and forth and they finally were like "Fine, we'll do it, but we're gonna train someone new on how to do it".
Worked out. But still have that stupid CL-65 is subject to PIC limitations stuck on my cert even with a CE-680 PIC type and a 737 one now.
02-03-2026 | 08:05 PM
#434
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From: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
Every org has a tiny percentage that soils the bed for everyone else.
02-03-2026 | 08:14 PM
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02-03-2026 | 10:43 PM
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I hope so but it sure didn’t sound like it. How dare that guy who lost a parent and a child in six months call out sick! And that cancer guy, where the heck was his concern for our passengers?? He should’ve considered the brand before he went and got cancer.
Soiled the bed indeed
Also amazing that not a single NYC pilot stopped so low. Surely it’s all because of our behavior right?
Soiled the bed indeed
Also amazing that not a single NYC pilot stopped so low. Surely it’s all because of our behavior right?
02-04-2026 | 01:12 AM
#438
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Full ATP requirements, but not the actual certificate. From: https://www.delta.com/us/en/careers/pilots/hiring-faqs
At least 23 years of age.
FAA Commercial Pilot Certificate with Instrument - Airplane.
Current FAA First Class Medical Certificate.
All aeronautical experience requirements for an ATP, Airplane category rating, as set forth in 14 CFR §61.159.
Current ATP written exam.
Minimum of 1,500 hours of total documented flight time.
Note the Commercial Pilot Certificate. A candidate doesn't actually even have to hold a restricted ATP.
At least 23 years of age.
FAA Commercial Pilot Certificate with Instrument - Airplane.
Current FAA First Class Medical Certificate.
All aeronautical experience requirements for an ATP, Airplane category rating, as set forth in 14 CFR §61.159.
Current ATP written exam.
Minimum of 1,500 hours of total documented flight time.
Note the Commercial Pilot Certificate. A candidate doesn't actually even have to hold a restricted ATP.
Furthermore, 14 CFR 61.159 defines several avenues for achieving an R-ATP, not just an ATP.
02-04-2026 | 04:03 AM
#439
Bent over by buybacks
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I don’t get why people look back on RA’s and SD’s tenures with admiration. They were not pilot advocates and made a lot of poor decisions. RA’ backround was as Lorenzo’s union-busting attorney ffs. Each had a big boo-boo on their way out. RA with TA1.
and SD being complicit in/condoning retaliating against a whistleblower (which also eventually cost him his job leading the FAA). Oh, and he hired Jim Graham, a total POS, who in turn accelerated the cascade of worsening management in flight ops. Every current bad actor in flight ops is a part of the Graham hiring tree. He would have loved these letters. Enough said.
p.s. Microsoft Surface
and SD being complicit in/condoning retaliating against a whistleblower (which also eventually cost him his job leading the FAA). Oh, and he hired Jim Graham, a total POS, who in turn accelerated the cascade of worsening management in flight ops. Every current bad actor in flight ops is a part of the Graham hiring tree. He would have loved these letters. Enough said.
p.s. Microsoft Surface
02-04-2026 | 04:55 AM
#440
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From: Blue Juice Taste Tester
We also hire FAs under 21 who legally can't sell alcohol in flight on day 1 of training. As long as they're 21 (meet the min requirements) by graduation day, they're good.
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