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05-11-2026 | 08:51 AM

#1221

notEnuf

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From: N60.4858 W149.9327

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Originally Posted by tennisguru

SS are crappy bid packet trips. In any category with QS/GS flowing regularly why take a crappy trip when odds are you can get a much easier trip or trips for the same pay? Plus for anyone farming for 23m7 they eat up your WS pickup limit which limits how much m7 you can get on any WS step of coverage.

They are so crappy they end in reroutes when a single issue arises, weather, rest, maintenance etc. $$$

05-11-2026 | 09:01 AM

#1222

notEnuf

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Originally Posted by Gunfighter

Perhaps the company's openness to an early deal is an attempt to sneak a subpar agreement under the wire by pretending they need a deal to save the summer. IMHO, the summer collapse is already baked in.

I agree with this and a change in attitude probably happened when the network pull down for fuel cost and availability was circulated amongst the brass.

05-11-2026 | 09:25 AM

#1223

notEnuf

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From: N60.4858 W149.9327

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Originally Posted by FyrePilot

anxiously awaiting your idea

I am also open to the company (or you). financially guaranteeing me the opportunity to drop my entire schedule and only work 3 silver slips and 23m7 when I get to be senior.

Now you are being sensible. Thanks for showing up.

05-11-2026 | 09:50 AM

#1224

ebl14

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From: 73N

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Originally Posted by Viper25

So if a hypothetical SLI is completely ideologically aligned with most of the line flyers, that SLI is still less-than (how I interpret “other” for only this context) as a member of the collective because they appear neutral while performing instructor duties?

This sense of “otherness” towards fellow pilots, that fly the line a lot themselves, is abhorrent. Feels very shoot-inside-the-circle esque.

I never saw an instructor wearing the lanyard either. I always wore mine into the lion’s den and I was the one being tested. I never understood why those guys can’t put the damn lanyard on. I think it would only take one or two influential instructors to start wearing the alpa contract swag if/when we get it to sway the other followers to support their union.

05-11-2026 | 09:54 AM

#1225

Trip7

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Man y'all got some wild ideas:

SS leveling
get rid of SS
leveling for all premium pay with lookback
SS are terrible bid package trips nobody wants them

Every idea would have unintended consequences for credit surfers take advantage of. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Big picture, I don't think there is enough heartburn amongst the pilot group about SS to warrant any changes in the PWA.

05-11-2026 | 10:16 AM

#1226

crewdawg

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Originally Posted by Trip7

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

I think hating the game is what they're doing. My only problem with them is that they're not available to reserves. They should be available to reserves or they should go away.

05-11-2026 | 10:17 AM

#1227

Viper25

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Originally Posted by ebl14

Most instructors were wearing lanyards and not wearing hats during fly months. Nobody considers it the “lion’s den” to wear a contract lanyard in a sim. No instructor is upset that it was being worn.

05-11-2026 | 10:22 AM

#1228

SideStickMonkey

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Originally Posted by crewdawg

I think hating the game is what they're doing. My only problem with them is that they're not available to reserves. They should be available to reserves or they should go away.

Then line holders should get PB days

05-11-2026 | 10:23 AM

#1229

notEnuf

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Originally Posted by Viper25

The point is the instructors aren't participating in union displays when instructing. They should be. As union members and especially now that they have their own council they need to get onboard or will be singled out.