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Old Today | 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
I'd really like to dive into the math behind those stats. Instead of being 7% of a smaller number flight ops cancellations are now 35% of a larger number. I suspect the problem is even bigger than the 5x implication.
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So many numbers that would be great to see as compared to when we ran an on time airline. How about the % of trips that were flown as published in the bid packet. Their acceptance rate number is sensational, but how much have the slips have been sent out, even before M7 took off, as compared to before? What's more expensive, what's we're doing now, or running a decently staffed airline?


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A little surprised the 787’s weren’t dangled. Maybe he deserves more credit than we give him.

Lol, I think even he knows that save a few odd fanboys, no one really cares about the plane.

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Originally Posted by crewdawg
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So many numbers that would be great to see as compared to when we ran an on time airline. How about the % of trips that were flown as published in the bid packet. Their acceptance rate number is sensational, but how much have the slips have been sent out, even before M7 took off, as compared to before? What's more expensive, what's we're doing now, or running a decently staffed airline?





Lol, I think even he knows that save a few odd fanboys, no one really cares about the plane.
The acceptance rate is not sensational. Every auto accept and subsequent decline counts as a trip being offered and not being picked up (being accepted). That's the point they were trying to make of it going from 35% to 2%.
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Originally Posted by Frank Grimes
The acceptance rate is not sensational. Every auto accept and subsequent decline counts as a trip being offered and not being picked up (being accepted). That's the point they were trying to make of it going from 35% to 2%.

That I don't discount, but if you don't have to run coverage for trips that aren't in open time... We have been able to run this airline without massive amounts of premium time, it can be done. In my short career, there was a time where one or two GS a YEAR was a "good" year. In some categories, GS#2 was almost unheard of.
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Originally Posted by Frank Grimes
That's the point they were trying to make of it going from 35% to 2%.
*caused by the need to increase batch sizes into the hundreds due to not having enough pilots, which caused auto accept to be used more and more by the pilot group
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Originally Posted by Frank Grimes
The acceptance rate is not sensational. Every auto accept and subsequent decline counts as a trip being offered and not being picked up (being accepted). That's the point they were trying to make of it going from 35% to 2%.
Which is still far less than the decline in the company’s acceptance rate of payback day requests.
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
That I don't discount, but if you don't have to run coverage for trips that aren't in open time... We have been able to run this airline without massive amounts of premium time, it can be done. In my short career, there was a time where one or two GS a YEAR was a "good" year. In some categories, GS#2 was almost unheard of.
It’s always gone in cycles. A key factor in the amount of overtime is however reserve utilization. When the reserve system was your on call 19 days a month in a 30 day month and 20 days a month in a 31 day month and it was a 24 hour on call with 2 hours to report greenslips were very rare. When the windows system hit we thought it was the greatest thing ever. You were only on short call 6 hours every day. The number the negotiations team needs and I am sure they have it is how are reserve utilization compares to the other major airlines. I have no idea what that number is however if it’s significantly less the company has a point. If it’s about the same they need to hire more.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
It’s always gone in cycles. A key factor in the amount of overtime is however reserve utilization. When the reserve system was your on call 19 days a month in a 30 day month and 20 days a month in a 31 day month and it was a 24 hour on call with 2 hours to report greenslips were very rare. When the windows system hit we thought it was the greatest thing ever. You were only on short call 6 hours every day. The number the negotiations team needs and I am sure they have it is how are reserve utilization compares to the other major airlines. I have no idea what that number is however if it’s significantly less the company has a point. If it’s about the same they need to hire more.
Do reserves who roll thunder count as being utilized?
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Do reserves who roll thunder count as being utilized?
right. It’s not really a win gummster said they plan a 10 pct increase to rsv
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Originally Posted by tripled
right. It’s not really a win gummster said they plan a 10 pct increase to rsv
…which is going to happen starting in two months? With what extra pilots?
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
That I don't discount, but if you don't have to run coverage for trips that aren't in open time... We have been able to run this airline without massive amounts of premium time, it can be done. In my short career, there was a time where one or two GS a YEAR was a "good" year. In some categories, GS#2 was almost unheard of.
Anyone hired by Delta in the past 2-3 years probably thinks this is hyperbole.
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