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05-04-2026 | 08:29 AM

#901

Abouttime2fish

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From: MD88

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Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

And all the commuter pilots who can use OOBWS to improve their quality of life.

I think those that live in one base, but commute to another for better seniority, create significant angst amongst the pilot group. Then take “their GS” as an OOBWS.

Now as a commuter, I’ve been able to commute to another location, fly into base, deviate to stay and fly trip next day….sweet when it happens. Or the opposite on the back end. Realistically? I think it’s worked half a dozen times in 12 years. So in today’s lingo….. 6-7.

05-04-2026 | 08:30 AM

#902

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Originally Posted by ShegotheD

Agreed, premium is premium;

Hard no. Hustling for a QS and subjecting yourself to multiple 3 am callouts in a batch of 200 should not put you at the bottom of the list for the next gentlemanly commutable GS that was called 1 at a time two days in advance.

Yes, subjecting yourself for one is voluntary but it shouldn't be leveled against the others.

05-04-2026 | 08:31 AM

#903

Whoopsmybad

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

And all the commuter pilots who can use OOBWS to improve their quality of life.

ummmm, maybe bid the base you want to fly out of?
I’m not talking about the occasional 1 off trip, but the people who bid one base and then drop everything and slip out of base.

05-04-2026 | 08:37 AM

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What’s wrong with just making in-base everything go before out-of-base anything?

05-04-2026 | 08:40 AM

#905

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

This would raise the GS trigger

But I’m all for a common “premium counter”.

Hard NO. Each type of premium serves a different purpose.

SS counter
GS counter
SS counter
A counter

let’s not mix the streams

05-04-2026 | 08:45 AM

#906

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Originally Posted by SVCTA

What’s wrong with just making in-base everything go before out-of-base anything?

Agreed

SS and GS with the now 2-day callouts allows commuters plenty of opportunity.

And I've never been "saved' from a SC assignment due to an OOBWS.

05-04-2026 | 08:47 AM

#907

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Originally Posted by 9easy

There’s no reason to reinvent the wheel here. Putting IBGS ahead of OOBWS would solve 95% of 23M7 and be a gain to 98% of the pilot group

This is true.

The farmers would whine about their cheese being moved, as would those that snag OOBWS trips that are, "too good to go green."

A5S

Last edited by All 5 Stages; 05-04-2026 at 09:09 AM.

05-04-2026 | 09:23 AM

#908

9easy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FangsF15

This would raise the GS trigger

But I’m all for a common “premium counter”.

This is incorrect. Bidding a low credit line will usually put you below the green slip trigger. The intent was to lower the green slip trigger but not eliminate it, but I’m sure there’s other ways to do it.

05-04-2026 | 09:45 AM

#909

Abouttime2fish

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From: MD88

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Originally Posted by 9easy

just eliminate it. They may get more and earlier takers if pilots didn’t have to worry about making the trigger. My 31 hours this month means GS don’t interest me. At all. Remove the trigger and maybe you peak my interest. Sea states going to sux wed to Thurs anyway….

05-04-2026 | 09:45 AM

#910

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Originally Posted by All 5 Stages

This is true.

The farmers would whine about their cheese being moved, as would those that snag OOBWS trips that are, "too good to go green."

A5S

If they are senior enough to farm, then they are senior enough to find the cheese. Next will be the whining about senior taking the good... (insert mob desire here)