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05-04-2026 | 05:25 AM

#881

Bazinga

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Originally Posted by flightlessbirds

Hard no to either of these. No thanks, we can keep current contract if those are company "must haves."

WS above RSV is sancrosanct in my opinion, it drives RSV utilization down and has a multiplier effect for swap/drop/premium opportunities, all apart from m7 and aa.

We put the cat in the bag on RRTE in C19, not willing to go backwards one inch.

yep. the current MEC Chairman was on the negotiating committee that got us those excellent re-route rules. No way in hell he signs off on a deal that undoes them the very next cycle.

05-04-2026 | 06:30 AM

#882

9easy

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There’s no reason to reinvent the wheel here. Putting IBGS ahead of OOBWS would solve 95% of 23M7 and be a gain to 98% of the pilot group

05-04-2026 | 06:58 AM

#883

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Originally Posted by 9easy

There’s no reason to reinvent the wheel here. Putting IBGS ahead of OOBWS would solve 95% of 23M7 and be a gain to 98% of the pilot group

Agreed, and removing the trigger would be even better. If you work on a day off 2X always, regardless of what you do the rest of the month.

05-04-2026 | 07:07 AM

#884

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Originally Posted by ShegotheD

Agreed, I am an instant NO on anything that touches soft pay and/or RR rules. I also don't think they should have better access to RES; hiring more pilots will make more RES available. It's simple (Here is a thought: use VAS). I will say this again, as I have said before. The belief that RES is mainly for junior folks is incorrect! RES is a fantastic option for senior individuals who value a better quality of life over money.

Yeah, they have all the tools they need to solve the problem they created. Hire more pilots is the obvious long term solution, but if they used PBS premium, SS, VAS, Standby Rotations, and extra on-call days proactively they'd be ahead of the problem instead of always trying to put out the fire. Then, don't waste time and reserves breaking up trips and DH'ing everyone around. Send the whole thing out as soon as it's uncovered.

05-04-2026 | 07:12 AM

#885

capncrunch

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Originally Posted by flightlessbirds

AGREED, hard NO.

Funny thing, that ask would still not fix the company’s problem. We are black on reserve coverage every day at the beginning of the month. Most days 10-20 pilots short of reserves required. By the time we get to the coverage day, ZERO reserves available. The problem is not the coverage ladder.

05-04-2026 | 07:21 AM

#886

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Originally Posted by notEnuf

Agreed, and removing the trigger would be even better. If you work on a day off 2X always, regardless of what you do the rest of the month.

Restoring PB usage goes a long way toward getting reserves in the game late in the month.

05-04-2026 | 07:26 AM

#887

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Originally Posted by Gunfighter

Restoring PB usage goes a long way toward getting reserves in the game late in the month.

At this point we are going to need something from the company if they want us to restore PB days.

05-04-2026 | 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by notEnuf

Agreed, and removing the trigger would be even better. If you work on a day off 2X always, regardless of what you do the rest of the month.

This would INCREASE the number of trips needing to be covered significantly. Everyone would drop everything they possibly could. I see no scenario where the company would ever agree to this.

05-04-2026 | 07:31 AM

#889

Bazinga

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Quote:

Originally Posted by waldo135

Everyone would drop everything they possibly could.

this is already happening. even LCAs. spend a few minutes contemplating LCAs doing it which reduces their availability to long Lange plan OE. I say none of that in a negative light, it's their contractual right to do it.

05-04-2026 | 07:34 AM

#890

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Originally Posted by waldo135

This would INCREASE the number of trips needing to be covered significantly. Everyone would drop everything they possibly could. I see no scenario where the company would ever agree to this.

Make the GS trigger = your original awarded line value. And award SS the same order as GS/QS so line clearing by the super seniors is less appealing.