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80ktsClamp 05-20-2012 08:04 PM

I want to be doing the show me the money dance later today. Hopefully the NC came through and this thing isn't a turd!

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1701026_o.gif

MoarAlpha 05-20-2012 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1192370)
http://www.shadowzone.com/MBpics/dr-evil.gif


You mean 45 years to save up a million at 4,8,3,3!!!!!:p

No no no you are confused sir. 45 years is much too optimistic!:p

Oh and this has been discussed many times. It's surely 48,33*. You need to get your facts straight.

*source - the interweb.

buzzpat 05-20-2012 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1192401)
I want to be doing the show me the money dance later today. Hopefully the NC came through and this thing isn't a turd!

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1701026_o.gif

All I want is a shark with a frikkin laser on his head. Is that too much to ask?

Roadkill 05-20-2012 08:43 PM

Great post by Guard Dude for 100k and totally on target!

Today was the first day for Jun swap and drops on PCS. I noticed that for the first time since Sep, all the weekends in my cat had reserves equal or less than required, so there was almost no swapping/dropping unless you didn't touch a weekend. I have to say that this was a HUGE impact for my QOL, there were 15 open time trips around and I couldn't get any of them due to reserve coverage issues.

I can see that a leaner staffing of reserves due to these TA reserve rule changes would seriously degrade both reserve guys (maybe) and line holders QOL just by disallowing many more swaps.

buzzpat 05-20-2012 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1192419)
Great post by Guard Dude for 100k and totally on target!

Today was the first day for Jun swap and drops on PCS. I noticed that for the first time since Sep, all the weekends in my cat had reserves equal or less than required, so there was almost no swapping/dropping unless you didn't touch a weekend. I have to say that this was a HUGE impact for my QOL, there were 15 open time trips around and I couldn't get any of them due to reserve coverage issues.

I can see that a leaner staffing of reserves due to these TA reserve rule changes would seriously degrade both reserve guys (maybe) and line holders QOL just by disallowing many more swaps.

Yep. Had all kinds of swaps and pick ups in. Whiffed every time. Going in, reserves available looked great. Now, they show short on several days. Welcome to the new (for now) normal.

Jesse 05-20-2012 09:44 PM

OK, so this is third hand info, but since we're dealing in rumors I think it's allowed. Had an AirTran JS today and while discussing the history of the first offer they got from SWA he referenced a conversation he had with a SWA bud of his who at the time said to him, "...take it. I'm already at $300k for the year." (it was August).

Which makes me even more disgusted to hear those numbers which I won't dignify by repeating.

80ktsClamp 05-20-2012 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1192431)
OK, so this is third hand info, but since we're dealing in rumors I think it's allowed. Had an AirTran JS today and while discussing the history of the first offer they got from SWA he referenced a conversation he had with a SWA bud of his who at the time said to him, "...take it. I'm already at $300k for the year." (it was August).

Which makes me even more disgusted to hear those numbers which I won't dignify by repeating.

That sounds a bit embellished. That's over 1300 converted hours of pay in only 8 months. I know they make more than us, but that doesn't exactly pass the test of reality.

Whidbey 05-21-2012 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1192439)
That sounds a bit embellished. That's over 1300 converted hours of pay in only 8 months. I know they make more than us, but that doesn't exactly pass the test of reality.

I have a good buddy at Southwest that has sat down and showed me their swap board, how they bid, etc. etc. He's a sixth year FO. He's working hard this year but if he keeps his pace he said he'll hit 200k. He said he has room to throttle way back and still top 180 easy.

My reserve unit is full of Southwest, Fedex, and Delta bubbas. The more senior (4-5 year) FOs at SWA and the widebody first officers at Fedex make as much or more as our MD-88 captains.

One other thing about Southwest: guys like to talk about all the legs they fly. They'll admit there is the rare day with 5 legs maybe 6, but most of their rotations really don't look too much different than what you'd see on the Mad dog.

I've watched this back and forth on APC for long time about SWA pay and I still scratch my head about guys that don't want to admit it, but it's a fact. They really do make that much more than we do.

iFlyer 05-21-2012 03:17 AM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1192353)
I got tired of only reading ten posts per page. You can go into the quick links, edit options, scroll down and change how many posts per page you see. I now see 30 so I don't have to click next as often, makes reading on the iPad easier. FWIW

Thanks PilotFrog - works great for iPad!


iF

scambo1 05-21-2012 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by Whidbey (Post 1192452)
I have a good buddy at Southwest that has sat down and showed me their swap board, how they bid, etc. etc. He's a sixth year FO. He's working hard this year but if he keeps his pace he said he'll hit 200k. He said he has room to throttle way back and still top 180 easy.

My reserve unit is full of Southwest, Fedex, and Delta bubbas. The more senior (4-5 year) FOs at SWA and the widebody first officers at Fedex make as much or more as our MD-88 captains.

One other thing about Southwest: guys like to talk about all the legs they fly. They'll admit there is the rare day with 5 legs maybe 6, but most of their rotations really don't look too much different than what you'd see on the Mad dog.

I've watched this back and forth on APC for long time about SWA pay and I still scratch my head about guys that don't want to admit it, but it's a fact. They really do make that much more than we do.


That has been my experience as well, talking to the SWA pilots.

I think the mental defect that allows it to happen is called "foolish pride."


ANYWAY: Who thinks DAL pilots make more than SWA pilots?

Who thinks SWA pilots work more days (on average) than DAL pilots?

Who thinks DAL has better health insurance than SWA?

Identify Yourselves.


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