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JungleBus 05-21-2012 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 1192490)
A CONTRACT 7 MONTHS EARLY. There should be no big picture. EVERY area of the contract should be a "wow that is nice." The comany is going to be VERY happy to have a contract now not in two years. We should get the same feeling. Sounds to me that you know what is in the TA and the pay stinks and so the union is preaching "big picture"

Sure you meant to quote sinca and not someone else? :confused:

exeagle 05-21-2012 05:16 AM

Delta Continues New York Growth with Expanded Caribbean, Bermuda, Florida Service - Yahoo! Finance

Delta Continues New York Growth with Expanded Caribbean, Bermuda, Florida Service

Not an RJ expansion, for once.

seamonster 05-21-2012 05:23 AM

BULL TALK
"You have to look at the contract as a whole."

"Well, we gave a lot to the pilots but you, as board members and stock holders, are only going to get marginal returns. If you look at what we gave the pilots, it really is not that much compared to the benifit of us getting the contract done early."

Reality

The company is going to make BILlIONs in the next few years. An early TA. It better be a slam dunk or they should have talked longer. Unless the unions expectations were so low that the company could easily meet the NC requests.

nwaf16dude 05-21-2012 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by exeagle (Post 1192492)
Delta Continues New York Growth with Expanded Caribbean, Bermuda, Florida Service - Yahoo! Finance

Delta Continues New York Growth with Expanded Caribbean, Bermuda, Florida Service

Not an RJ expansion, for once.

That's some good news...hope to have some more tonight, but not counting on it.

shiznit 05-21-2012 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1192483)
Sailing;

How many times does that have to be refuted before you give up on it?:confused:

How many times are others going to spout off without providing ANY reference or evidence?

If anyone can provide evidence to back up their SWA block per pilot per year math I'd love to see it.

Bucking Bar 05-21-2012 05:35 AM

Boyd has our TA and we DONT!
 
From this week's HotFlash

Management Consultants Have Delta's TA before Delta's Pilots!


Now, put this in context. The majority of 50-seaters will be retired due to escalating costs. The next step up - 66/70 seat CRJs are a potential, but it's more likely that carrier systems will seek 80-110 seat airliners such as the CRJ-900/1000 and the E-190 platforms as fleet additions. (Remember, it's NOT seat capacity that drives airline fleet decisions - it's sector costs. As the expense of hurling 50-seaters through the sky goes up, the sector cost variance between these aircraft and larger versions shrinks markedly.)
That brings us to a new reality: It's becoming more and more obvious that it will be mainline airlines that fly these new aircraft fleets. There are two clear indications. The first is what US Airways has reportedly discussed with American's pilot's union. The second - and more immediately concrete - is the tentative agreement between Delta and ALPA. Both include aircraft in the E-190 size category, and in the case of Delta, it even mentions the CRJ-900.

sailingfun 05-21-2012 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1192483)
Sailing;

How many times does that have to be refuted before you give up on it?:confused:

You can also simply look at how many pilots SWA has and how many Delta uses on domestic narrow bodies. I saw the numbers a few years ago. If I recall Delta was using about 13 pilots per airframe. SW around 11.

1234 05-21-2012 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1192502)
From this week's HotFlashTwo points:

(1) Told you so.
(2) We can vote for 90 or 100 seat flying to be outsourced, just can not do it.

Bar,

Your article says it will be mainline flying he aircraft. Isn't that what we want so why a war against the TA?

FlyZ 05-21-2012 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1192502)
From this week's HotFlashTwo points:

(1) Told you so.
(2) We can vote for 90 or 100 seat flying to be outsourced, just can not do it.

Bar,
Unless I'm reading this wrong, isn't Boyd saying that E190 and maybe CR9 will be flown at MAINLINE under this TA?

shiznit 05-21-2012 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1192502)
From this week's HotFlashTwo points:

(1) Told you so.
(2) We can vote for 90 or 100 seat flying to be outsourced, just can not do it.

Ha! We've had CRJ-900 and E-190 rates in our contract for years already....

So when does Mr. Boyd see the manufacturers hanging GTF's on the CRJ-200's or a -200 like platform?

That will make our scope problem balloon yet again.....


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