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Bucking Bar 09-11-2012 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1259140)
Bar;
I doubt seriously if you were the only one that had that reaction. For every offense you have to have a good defense. To catch a crook, you have to think like a crook.

But I'm incapable of ... .

Over the last several years the top corporate executives at Northwest and Delta airlines negotiated retirement packages guaranteeing them millions in the event the companies declared bankruptcy and defaulted on their pension payments to employees. Both companies filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection last Wednesday, in large measure to escape their pension obligations and seek the bankruptcy court’s backing for sweeping cuts in airline workers’ jobs, wages and benefits.
Since 2000, Delta has lost $10 billion, slashed 23,000 jobs and cut pay for pilots, managers and other employees. Three years ago the company spent more than $44 million setting up trusts to protect executives’ pension benefits from creditors in case of bankruptcy, saying the perk was needed to retain executives in hard times. Because transferring money to bankruptcy-proof trusts typically triggers big tax bills for the executives, Delta inflated the amounts to compensate for the extra taxes.
Retiring CEO Leo Mullin, who was paid $13 million in compensation in 2001, was given 22 years of instant seniority—although he worked for Delta for only five-and-half years—boosting his retirement package to $16 million.
IMHO, that's sociopathic to crash the airplane, demand a huge paycheck for the effort, then a bonus to cover the taxes and give oneself 22 years of extra seniority.

I'm glad pilots are cut from better cloth than that. Makes pilots a pleasant crowd to work with.

SierraWhiskey 09-11-2012 06:38 AM

So do we bid this month to slide vacation in November? Or is it next month?

iceman49 09-11-2012 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey (Post 1259163)
So do we bid this month to slide vacation in November? Or is it next month?

Next month

SFWB 09-11-2012 07:52 AM

I remember. We homeschool and just spent the last hour on 9-11. No dry eyes.

Erdude32 09-11-2012 07:57 AM

Anyone else notice NYERb has 10 guys on s/c for tomorrow? ***? There's nothing in open time until the 14th, Zero Wx in the area and none forecasted all week. Seems to me they are putting so many on s/c just because they CAN, not that they NEED to. Funny, all summer long there was typically 4-6 on s/c a day, with PLENTY of rsv's on l/c as well. Here we are a month later, NOTHING in open time, flying dropped by 12% and they nearly double the # of s/c's. WHY? Why should 10 guys/gals a day have to commute to NYC to sit for 24hrs for what? Is there any guidance or formula to calculate how my s/c are required for a given day? Going to call Dalpa and council 66 FO Rep. Perhaps the other 100 NYC ERb reserves should as well. Be a pain in the a$$ until they quit doing this just because they "can".:confused::confused:

hockeypilot44 09-11-2012 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Erdude32 (Post 1259203)
Anyone else notice NYERb has 10 guys on s/c for tomorrow? ***? There's nothing in open time until the 14th, Zero Wx in the area and none forecasted all week. Seems to me they are putting so many on s/c just because they CAN, not that they NEED to. Funny, all summer long there was typically 4-6 on s/c a day, with PLENTY of rsv's on l/c as well. Here we are a month later, NOTHING in open time, flying dropped by 12% and they nearly double the # of s/c's. WHY? Why should 10 guys/gals a day have to commute to NYC to sit for 24hrs for what? Is there any guidance or formula to calculate how my s/c are required for a given day? Going to call Dalpa and council 66 FO Rep. Perhaps the other 100 NYC ERb reserves should as well. Be a pain in the a$$ until they quit doing this just because they "can".:confused::confused:

It seems the company has all but eliminated long call. Reserve as a commuter is becoming hell...I think. I've been holding a line for the last few months. Not looking forward to going back.

tsquare 09-11-2012 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Erdude32 (Post 1259203)
Anyone else notice NYERb has 10 guys on s/c for tomorrow? ***? There's nothing in open time until the 14th, Zero Wx in the area and none forecasted all week. Seems to me they are putting so many on s/c just because they CAN, not that they NEED to. Funny, all summer long there was typically 4-6 on s/c a day, with PLENTY of rsv's on l/c as well. Here we are a month later, NOTHING in open time, flying dropped by 12% and they nearly double the # of s/c's. WHY? Why should 10 guys/gals a day have to commute to NYC to sit for 24hrs for what? Is there any guidance or formula to calculate how my s/c are required for a given day? Going to call Dalpa and council 66 FO Rep. Perhaps the other 100 NYC ERb reserves should as well. Be a pain in the a$$ until they quit doing this just because they "can".:confused::confused:

Nothing hew here.. I've been talking about this for years...

Erdude32 09-11-2012 08:13 AM

Just sent this to Council 66 Rep, if you are in a category in a similar situation...take some action. Perhaps this can be addressed in the FTDT negotions???

Xxxxx,


Any idea why scheduling is now assigning up to 10 s/c's a day? Tomorrow is a prime example, there is nothing in open time until the 14th, no weather or IROPS.....basically no reason other than they CAN.

All summer long, in the peak of the flying block hours there were typically 4-6 s/c's assigned a day, with plenty of l/c's available as well. Now here it is a month later, a 12% reduction in block hours and they RAISE the number of s/c's by 50%.

Is there some mechanism or formula to calculate s/c's required? If not, there needs to be and should be included in the up-comming negotions for FTDT limits.

We made GREAT strides in RSV QOL in the contract, but there ARE some loopholes that need to be addressed. This is one of those! There is NO reason why 10 guys/gals a day should have to commute to NYC to sit in a hotel or crashpad for 24 hrs, just because scheduling CAN do it. It is abuse, plain and simple.


Thanks for looking into this,


Xxxx,
NYC ERb

rvr350 09-11-2012 09:20 AM

The 7th SC we gave away is gonna bite us in the rear big time.

XtremeF150 09-11-2012 09:21 AM

I agree with the SC statements. I am in the smallest category in the company and they regularly have enough SC's to cover 50% of the current rotations. Imagine if they did that in a large category. When are half our pilots going to get sick mid rotation?

We are staffed very heavy on the 9 right now and as such I haven't flown much this year. However I don't think that should mean they can just give out extra SC's because they feel that we aren't working enough. I have had schedulers tell me "Your lucky with your schedule you shouldn't complain".


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