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A buddy of mine sent me a text "The more I think about it the whole scope thing really ****es me off. ALPA's whole argument for rj's is that it feeds mainline. But now Delta, and it seems ALPA, are pushing for more RJ's as need for getting the 717 or 319. You're trying to tell me that we need more 76 seat jets to feed the 110 seat jets we are going to get?"
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Ok. Now I'm dizzy. Sailing and Slow, cut it out.
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Supposedly we'll be above WN's current 737 pay in 2015 with this turd... at 216.92 vs. their 216.22. 12 year 777 CA rate= fdx's in 2015.
Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1193543)
And at that payrate WN pilots get zero in retirement contributions. Delta guys will have 15%. With WN's max contribution (9.3% matching, requiring a 10% pilot contribution) their hourly rate is $194.60, and a total cash compensation rate of $236.33. The Delta total rate will be $249.46.
236.76. If we are making 216.92, and we get 15% added to the DC, that would be that 249.46 that you mentioned. If you are going to consider 401k pay as total compensation,for them you have to do it for us too.. so the gap isn't nearly as big as you are trying to sell... almost $13... 3 years from now. |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1193520)
I'd call that proof that they aren't the same person.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1193547)
What exactly does section one have to due with our lease obligations to Bombardier?
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1193552)
What's bad about that one? Already DCI makes up a major portion of each class. This guarantees some jobs for the resultant furloughs from the new scope section.
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1193566)
Supposedly we'll be above WN's current 737 pay in 2015 with this turd... at 216.92 vs. their 216.22. 12 year 777 CA rate= fdx's in 2015.
Wait, what?? If SWA pilots are getting 216.22 and they contribute 10% to their 401k, they are still getting paid 216.22, their hourly rate does not change. Then you add the additional contribution to the 401k that the company adds, and their total goes to 236.76. If we are making 216.92, and we get 15% added to the DC, that would be that 249.46 that you mentioned. If you are going to consider 401k pay as total compensation,for them you have to do it for us too.. so the gap isn't nearly as big as you are trying to sell... almost $13... 3 years from now. |
Originally Posted by exeagle
(Post 1193570)
Nothing against Dci pilots. Hell, I was one. Just irritated that we had to "meet and confer" in the first place.
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Originally Posted by A6danimal
(Post 1193502)
I don't care who's pet project the DCI preference hiring language was, it JUMPED out at me, as I read the TA, as something that wasted at least 5 minutes of my negotiating committee's time (in an "accelerated" negotiation) -on behalf of another pilot group- that would've been better used saying:
"Tell Mr. Anderson that 4% at DOS just is NOT GOING TO PASS WITH THIS PILOT GROUP!" I am deeply disappointed. .... Just saw your post 80, I agree, 35% is just not even worth talking about as it's so low. Don't know why they bothered with it though? |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1193576)
That is one oddity here. 35% be DCI. I'd get it if it were 35% be ALPA DCI. But just any DCI? Are they negotiating for the Teamsters too?
.... Just saw your post 80, I agree, 35% is just not even worth talking about as it's so low. Don't know why they bothered with it though? |
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