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sailingfun 05-21-2012 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1193519)
Go back and reread the TA section 1. You will find that you are incorrect.

What exactly does section one have to due with our lease obligations to Bombardier?

JobHopper 05-21-2012 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by copydat (Post 1193508)
Where are you getting the 4:30 min pay per day? I see 5:15 just like our present contract. If they dropped it to 4:30 that could be a significant pay cut on some rotations.

Chapter 12, page 13. We still get 5:15 per duty period, so no rotation pay cuts.

exeagle 05-21-2012 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1193296)
Can you say "meet and confer?"


Company will hire 35% of new hires
in Delta pilot new-hire classes in each trailing twelve
month period (to the extent airmen are available) with ALPA-represented
airmen at Delta Connection Carriers, subject to such airmen meeting the
Company’s competitive hiring standards, and subject to the Company’s
objectives for diversity and experience among newly hired pilots. Airmen who
flow up pursuant to LOA #24 and LOA #25 count toward satisfaction of such
minimum percentage.

Ugh. This just keeps getting worse. :(

80ktsClamp 05-21-2012 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1193544)
Anybody see protections against geared turbofan aircraft?

I believe that the seat class of aircraft in the scope is now irregardless to method of propulsion.

80ktsClamp 05-21-2012 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by exeagle (Post 1193549)
Ugh. This just keeps getting worse. :(

What's bad about that one? Already DCI makes up a major portion of each class. This guarantees some jobs for the resultant furloughs from the new scope section.

newKnow 05-21-2012 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1193541)
I love how they state that they traded a portion of profit sharing for "permanent pay increases..." and that is barely above government (not actual) COLA.

Absolutely insulting.

The sale job is going to be absolutely fantastic on this one...

How much have we been making in profit sharing over the past few years?

How much more profitable is Delta supposed to be in the upcoming years?

Typical pilots: Buy high and sell low.

georgetg 05-21-2012 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1193441)
I don't think your analysis is correct.

With the additon of 50 snb management can access 40 76 seat jets. They have to have the 50 seat fleet reduced by 111 from the current level. With 63 snb management can access 50 76 seat jets and has to park 141 50 seaters...and so on with the 1.25 ratio.

They can't access 76 seat jets without taking snb and parking 50 seaters except as provided in the timeline of 1.b.40. Once the 50 seaters are parked the DCI fleet is capped at that number, and the block hour ratio prevents mainline from shrinking when DCI doesn't.

yup, overlooked the for each.

27 for the first 10
27 for the next 10
28 for the next 10
29 for the next 10
yup, 111 for the first 40

30 for the next 10
31 for the next 10
46 for the next 10
107 for the next 30

217 TOTAL

125 permitted at final 76-seat count of 223

342 total RJs reduced to 125. That's a gain.

Cheers
George

slowplay 05-21-2012 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1193544)
Anybody see protections against geared turbofan aircraft?

Yes. Powerplant is no longer a determinant. There are exceptions for small turboprops (less than 37K lbs) and for 5 large bizjets at privatejets

sailingfun 05-21-2012 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1193526)
The "small narrowbody" is defined in section 1 as A319 or 717. No mention of C series or any other types.

There is a section that deals with new aircraft. If you wanted the best price from someone perhaps you don't advertise your interest. In any case look for a announcement before the vote.

slowplay 05-21-2012 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1193547)
What exactly does section one have to due with our lease obligations to Bombardier?

I didn't realize the Delta pilots had a lease obligation to Bombardier:D


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