Is anyone else disturbed by raising the amount of 70-76 seaters allowed from 255 to 325? How is allowing 70 more large regional jets a win? I guess I don't get it. My union must have better information than me.

We don't, and that is precisely the point. DAL, the corporation certainly does. If they don't, then why are they on the hook until I am long dead to keep the 50 seaters around? What is it about our contract that will allow them out of those contracts? This is a verrrrry critical question here slow. Because if I am reading this right, the company has 50 seat contracts until 2023 (or some such date) If our newly minted scope language will allow the company to reneg on those contracts, I say let's send the whole thing back and get section 1 rewritten to include all external domestic flying then, and we can get out of ALL of it.

How bout them apples?

Yeah, it seems like our negotiators lost to EVERYONE, including the DCI ALPA folks during "meet and confer."

DCI: "Tell you what, if you make sure we have a steady stream of new RJs coming, we will let you guarantee us jobs at Delta."

DALPA: "Ok, but what do we get out of it?"

DCI: "You get more routes taken by us and less mainline jobs."

DALPA: "Ok, sounds good. Hey, did you hear we are going to get this done seven months ahead of the amendable date? It's a world record!"

DCI: "Sounds good. And don't forget about us! We are paying dues to the BIG BOSS too, and he said you must keep our best interest in mind."

DALPA: "Don't worry ;)"

I think part of the reason they caved on the decrease to profit share from 15% to 10% is because they anticipate Delta to post more than $2.5 B in 2013 and beyond which triggers the unchanged 20%

I think I added it back in to the total number just like you did. We can't spend our 15%, and they can't spend their 19.3% (if they contribute the max). Their matching contribution to the 401k REDUCES their takehome pay, our DC does not. Anyway, this is getting lost in the minutiae.

Oh, and T, I want more...a lot more. I'll stipulate that $13,000 isn't enough. Show me a better path, or anyone in 2015 projected to be in a better place. This is still not good enough...by a long shot, but all those clamoring for "restoration now" have delivered bupkiss. Our compounded payrates in 2015 will be up over 40% since 2008. I'd like to keep the vector positive and not stall out for a bunch of years like APA, UAL, CAL, LCC, etc. Even mighty LUV has only made about 7% over that timeframe.

So let's help them out of the 70 seat flying and make THOSE our jobs too... as well as the 200 seat flying.. and the 250 seat flying.. and the 400 seat flying.....

This all assumes SWA gets no more pay increases from now till 2015 though

Where do you see this. The one that I downloaded still says one minute for every three minutes but is highlighted in yellow and has a change bar on the line.

Thanks,

That's fine then.. but (money they contribute) to get the match is still money in the bank... that they can spend at sometime in their life.. and THAT difference is not that big.... three years from now.

That's because it's one minute pay for you, one minute pay for the Airbus. She has to work hard to make up for our failings as pilots.