As I read section 1, I don't see any negotiation. All I see is agreement with the companies (pre)plans.

The rapid drawdown of the 50s for debt relaxation to buy 76s. Which wasn't allowed by our scope. And it attempts to tie in The 717 (80 each), which was signed between DAL and SWA 3-4 weeks ago, added in to appear like we got something.

Unbelievable. The ta is now on the website and in the scope section it says if the company gets a new narrowbody plane type they can go up to a total of 223 76 jets with still 102 70 seat jets. That's right 70 more 76 seaters!!! HELL NO!

This thing is supposed to ride on the details, and Section 1, because it certainly isn't going to ride on the rates, right?

If so, who thought it would be a good idea to give a 477-page reading assignment, where the details are buried? I can't even get my brain to latch on to Section 1. Every time I think I've got it, it runs into an "excused compliance" clause, and I freeze up as I need to reboot.

Still keeping an open mind, but TO's letter and the delivery of this thing... not good.

Can you say "meet and confer?"


Company will hire 35% of new hires
in Delta pilot new-hire classes in each trailing twelve
month period (to the extent airmen are available) with ALPA-represented
airmen at Delta Connection Carriers, subject to such airmen meeting the
Company’s competitive hiring standards, and subject to the Company’s
objectives for diversity and experience among newly hired pilots. Airmen who
flow up pursuant to LOA #24 and LOA #25 count toward satisfaction of such
minimum percentage.

I wonder what will happen to Pinnacle, Mesaba and Comair's 50 seat jets? Delta just gave 74 million in DIP financing to Pinnacle. Delta can wipe out all the 50 seat jets at Pinnacle/Mesabe for non-compliance. Delta can wipe out all the 50 seats jets at Comair. I wonder what will happen next? Why do the pilots have to bail out management mistakes??

Comair- 100- 50 seat jets
www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional/comair.html

Pinnalce- 124- 50 seat jets
www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional/pinnacle.html

Mesaba- 13- 50 seat jets
www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional/mesaba.html

In reply to WAGMAN: TO's letter says 32 less 76 seaters. Is this incorrect? His letter makes it sound like the scope is better. Is it false? P.S. 50 seaters were so inefficient, they were going away anyway. Why should TO make it sound like its a plus for us?

Wow. Just read the TA, and other than a 10 cent per diem improvement, a few hours of vacation and about a buck more for international override, there is really nothing there. We are supposed to be excited about COLA raises, MINUS profit sharing reductions, MAJOR SCOPE CONCESSIONS again, and WE ARE SUPPOSED TO PAY for the new 100 seater????

My Friends, this will be the easiest vote I've ever cast. Sure, the time value of money is something to be considered, but what about RETRO PAY? I'm wiling to do the tough slogging if it means we actually end up with a decent contract... and guess what? You'll get a retro check for your patience.

My question is what about the contract survey? Did DALPA not bother to read it? Because it sure looks like there is nothing in this contract that even comes close to what I've been looking for.

And as for the pathetic, pandering letter from our Chairman-- that's about all I needed to know concerning who is and who is not representing my interests going forward.

If the 223 number was the hardcap for all 70+ aircraft, I could almost follow their logic.

But if it's 223 76 seaters PLUS 100 70 seaters, then no F'IN way.

Nu

Hard cap of 255 76 seaters is decreased to 223. However, this doesn't take the 70 seaters into account, which the current 255 cap does. Thus, the total number of 51-76 seaters goes up by some 70 airframes. Smoke and mirrors!