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Old 05-27-2012 | 08:07 PM
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The way slowplay keeps using scambo's post as a signature...even when it doesn't make any sense to do so, I realize who slowplay really is! He's the cartoon copilot/F15 pilot from "the zoo".

LOGBOOK!

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Old 05-27-2012 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
One of the advantages of working for a large union is...
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Does any one else have a problem with this?
You noticed that too eh? I don't think it was a Freudian slip either.

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Old 05-27-2012 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by texavia
Does any one else have a problem with this?
What, you'd rather your E&FA department only have access to one set of numbers provided by management? I much prefer that our pilot group is supported by a team with access throughout the industry allowing them to crosscheck the data they get.
Old 05-27-2012 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
What, you'd rather your E&FA department only have access to one set of numbers provided by management? I much prefer that our pilot group is supported by a team with access throughout the industry allowing them to crosscheck the data they get.

Its just too bad DALPA doesn't use the data to the pilots benefit.
Old 05-27-2012 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
What, you'd rather your E&FA department only have access to one set of numbers provided by management? I much prefer that our pilot group is supported by a team with access throughout the industry allowing them to crosscheck the data they get.
You're still missing it.

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Old 05-27-2012 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Its just too bad DALPA doesn't use the data to the pilots benefit.
Scambo, 777B
TA vs. rates for other airlines

UPS $185.51
FDX $184.76
DAL $184.57
AMR $139.27
CAL $131.80
UAL $131.00
Old 05-27-2012 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Scambo, 777B
TA vs. rates for other airlines

UPS $185.51
FDX $184.76
DAL $184.57
AMR $139.27
CAL $131.80
UAL $131.00
I have come to learn, it is not only about pay rates, its also about workrules.

examples:
UPS 6.5 hr min day for a turn. With Retirement
Fedex trip touching vacation drops. With retirement
SWA premium open time - get me this and I'll shut the hell up!!!

I admit, there are some small gains in this TA, but overall, its not even a base hit.
Old 05-27-2012 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
We are hearing 300 positions lost instantly and forever in work rule changes and maybe 250-300 early outs...all of which would be leaving in the next few years anyway, yet the 300 lost positions in work rules will last forever. Dumbest trade off in history.
We are all caught up on scope and pay, but this is a big deal in my opinion. Hope we keep this at the forefront of the discussion also.
Old 05-27-2012 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kargo
Hey Gang,

Does anyone know what the life span of the 88 is? I.e. when will that fateful "heavycheck" park it in the desert. I saw in section one where they get to run the 76 seaters up to 223 for 1.25 mainline narrow bodies, but didn't see anything about those 76 seaters being parked if we lose other narrow bodies. Like the 9s they'll park as soon as we get the 717s.


Thanks

I asked that very question to the Reps in the Pilot lounge and was told we were protected by the block hour ratios. Fair enough, but we did not have time to go into detail.

Can anyone shed some light on this? Are we protected if we park a whole bunch of mainline, other than 717s?

I think if mainline shrinks then DCI would also shrink but how solid is this?

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Old 05-27-2012 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DoubleTrouble
With the productivity improvements (increased ALV, reserves flying ALV + 15, 30 day months all summer, reserves selling X days and buying SC, etc) it is quite possible that greenslips are rare/gone. It is quite possible that some pilots will now fly the same amount of block hours with a far lower W-2.

Now we can debate whether the loss of G/S's is a good or bad thing, but if the flying is done with fewer pilots at a lower effective rate....
So in other words, the reserves being able to make more coin is a bad thing. Got it.
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