T; merger or acquisition, yes, I agree. Fact is Dal needs access to capital to initiate this. Debts too high. Rj's swap solves this. Without it they have less options.

If there is another merger in the future, could we go back for some extra pay in a new joint contract with whichever carrier it is with? Sure we could.

Maybe extra pay could be associated with a new JCBA with a future merger partner?(if there is one :) )

I think that is absolutely correct.

Except they won't say it out loud. And they do it slowly. A concession here. An exemption there. Just a handful of business jets. Just a slight delay in enforcing that pesky "production balance". A one time only, "we'll get 'em next time" grievance settlement.
alfaromeo says we're getting all worked up over trivial things. He says these things are so small they are comical.
Let 'em have a few more 76 seaters. C'mon guys, we're only adjusting the numbers a little bit. Management's in a jam. We can help. Besides, don't look over there. Look over here --> We got ratios. Industry leading ratios.

What ALPA is doing to us on scope is truly sad. We are like the proverbial frogs being brought to a gradual boil. We don't catch on and try to jump out of the pan until its too late. We're cooked.

Meanwhile it is severe career stagnation for the bottom half of our ever-shrinking list.

Then, ultimately ---> will the last Delta pilot please turn out the lights.

you're stretching big time.

+1! ALPA is pitting both ends against the middle and pocketing the difference!

The MOST important part of any contract is SCOPE!

My guess is that Alpha does not plan for a displacement out of his equipment or home base :mad: EVERY SINGLE BID FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS :mad: like we do. His definition of trivial might be different if he was constantly evaluating a commute to reserve, going back to the schoolhouse & a 15% pay cut.

Contract 2012, aka Frog Boil 2012

Not really true. It has not been ALPA National driving the outsourcing, it has been our own MEC. ALPA simply supports our MEC & pilots.

I'm not a hard "yes" or "no" on C2012. I think our MEC did a very good job balancing the interests of our pilot group in the agreement that was reached. Certainly no one can allege it is a windfall for regional guys, as their numbers will be cut under this plan and the remainder won't make much more flying the 76 seat version of the RJ's.

While I understand the staffing protections, the work rule changes in this agreement, as well as the loose language in Section 1 concern me.