Great news!

 

Is it just me, or does she look like a walking stick? I guess I prefer women with a little more substance on their bones.

 

Does vacation count towards credit or just pay?

 

When you first bid, it counts for both, but after your bid award, just pay. That means your line credit time will be 21hrs. less after the bid runs, so you can pick up another 21(or more) hours to 'fill up' during a vacation month, and you'll be paid the total of what you picked up, (up to ALV +15) PLUS the 21hrs. of vacation pay.

I know, it makes no sense, that you could work MORE, not Less, during a vacation month, but that's the way it came down.

Don't get me started on what a bunch of Wh0res we've become...there was a time when you could actually sell back 50% of your vacation time, and the junior guys did cry! But now we can sell back 100% of it! And you wonder why there's no open time?

Feel the synergy?

I mean stagnation.

 

Simple answer, just pay.

Longer answer, when you bid your schedule for the month in which you have vacation, it counts towards the initial bid award of ALV plus or minus 7.5 hours. Once the bid is posted it reverts to pay only and now you can whiteslip that time if you want.

Denny

 

Thanks Timbo & Denny.

 

Really? Since when have we been allowed to sell back vacation? First I've heard of that one.

 

I'm pretty sure you can't pick-up open time during your vacation, and pretty sure you can't sell it either.

 

You're exactly right.

 

The fact is that you get a line awarded with the vacation added in, ie. a say, a 81hr. line at the initial bid run, then take away the 21 hr. vacation, and now you can pick up 21 more hours.

If that is not selling back 100% of your vacation, I don't know what is.

No, you cannot pick up time on your vacation days, but the rest of the month you can pick up to ALV+15+ the 21 hours of vacation. ie. you just sold it all back. This, along with no limit on the amount of time you can pick up by swapping with the pot, and trip parking, is what is killing your upward movement. At least we slowed down the trip parking, but I'm sure there's a work-a-round in the works.

The MEC says the 'average line flyer' flys about what, 87 hours now?

OK, let's say we were to go back to a hard 75 hr. cap. and include vacation in that, no sell back. That's 12 hrs. less per month for the entire line holding pilot group, or 16% less flying, which would mean the co. would need to upgrade 16% more pilots (1,600 of 10,000) to do the same amount of flying.

OR...we could just keep doing what we are doing and you can stay in your right seat until some old fart retires...and maybe they replace him, or not, just like they are not replacing all those A330 and 747 Capts. who just left early.

Dammit! I told you not to get me started!!