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Bucking Bar 11-06-2012 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Too Tall (Post 1288486)
I love it when scheduling puts 8 on short call when the target is 4, seem like they are now determined to max every reserve pilots SC for the month.

The irony for those of us trying to fly, is that we can't Yellow Slip because we are always either already assigned short call, or resting up from doing nothing.



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Tried to convince a scheduler that excessive short calls are inefficient ...

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johnso29 11-06-2012 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1288487)
My point was I do not think Allegiant was in the market for the B717. breathe.

Why not? Delta was picking between the A319 & B717. Why wouldn't Allegiant?

sailingfun 11-06-2012 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Too Tall (Post 1288486)
I love it when scheduling puts 8 on short call when the target is 4, seem like they are now determined to max every reserve pilots SC for the month.

What category are you speaking about. There are expected to be major weather issues tomorrow with the possible closure of LGA and JFK due to high winds. It would be smart to insure you have a lot of reserves at least in ATL and DTW.

JungleBus 11-06-2012 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1288395)
Spout all the uninformed, inaccurate, and foolish things you want... It does not change the fact that you are NOT a Delta Pilot and you do NOT know "what the membership wants".

What precisely was uniformed, inaccurate, or foolish about what I typed? Point by point, are the CR9/E175 aircraft:
  • Brand-new 76-seat jets - Yes
  • Mainline Comfort - Yes, 3 class including economy comfort, with very comfortable seats, pitch equaling the best mainline domestic, and wifi installed fleet-wide.
  • Mainline Performance - Yes, similar speed, range, and seat-adjusted fuel burn.
  • Mainline Capabilities - Full fuel, pax, and bags on most routes, including such "regional" staples as MSP-YVR and JFK-DFW.
  • Flown on a coast-to-coast network - Yes, including the US & Canada's largest cities in all four corners, I often fly coast-to-coast in a single day. It's a "regional" airplane only if North America is a "region."
  • Will they stick around for 20-25 years? Well, that obviously remains to be seen as was pointed out, but 5 years in they're still quite reliable, far more than when we got them, and DAL obviously likes them enough to give you guys an early contract for 70 more. I'd think they stay around a long time unless you guys outsource 100-120-seaters, you might be able to get them retired early in that case! :D
So the only other thing I could have typed that was uninformed, innaccurate, or foolish is that not many DAL guys included more outsourced replacement jets in their wish list. You're right, I'm not DAL (just carry your pax)... I only know about a dozen or so DAL pilots and only carry 2 or 3 DAL guys on my jumpseat each week, and DALPA never released the survey results, so I don't know what the pilot group wanted. Perhaps most pilots actually were in lock-step with DALPA and were all for the greater outsourcing of mainline-capable airplanes. I gave the pilot group the benefit of the doubt. Funny to get accused of being too optimistic about the DAL pilot group.


Why don't you go negotiate a solidly improved contract for your own airline before being critical of someone else's collective bargaining agreement...
Actually, our very first contract becomes amendable later this month, so we're in the process of doing just that. Unfortunately it seems that somebody saddled us with mandatory baseball-style arbitration clause...I forget who at the moment...but it almost seems like they didn't want us to negotiate a solidly improved contract. :rolleyes: We'll give it the ole college try regardless! :D


Just in case you forgot: Go back to your own forum and leave Delta pilots to be concerned with Delta Pilot issues.
No, I didn't forget that my presence here drives you (shiznit) crazy, it's just about the only thing keeping me around what with the absence of underboob and all the rumors being depressing ones. But hey, I'll actually agree to leave you to your own forum the minute I stop seeing DAL pilots posting in the CAL/UAL and AA and various regional forums.

Elliot 11-06-2012 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1288515)
No, I didn't forget that my presence here drives you (shiznit) crazy, it's just about the only thing keeping me around what with the absence of underboob and all the rumors being depressing ones. But hey, I'll actually agree to leave you to your own forum the minute I stop seeing DAL pilots posting in the CAL/UAL and AA and various regional forums.

JB,

Don't worry about $h!tniz's behavior towards poster's he doesn't agree with. He's a company puppet, and chooses to fling insults instead of constructively engaging in the conversation.

Take for example, Purple Drank's posts on the forum, and how everyone attacks him when he posts desire for additional improvements. The L & G about Delta has turned into a swamp of depressing "group think" mentalities, and if you don't agree with the "club", you're obviously either incapable of posting on a "mainline" forum, or "too junior" to realize how difficult all those previously employed by Delta truly had it.

Keep offering the "other side of the fence" Jungle, and hopefully Shiz will go away.

Fly safe,

GJ

sailingfun 11-06-2012 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1288515)
What precisely was uniformed, inaccurate, or foolish about what I typed? Point by point, are the CR9/E175 aircraft:
  • Brand-new 76-seat jets - Yes
  • Mainline Comfort - Yes, 3 class including economy comfort, with very comfortable seats, pitch equaling the best mainline domestic, and wifi installed fleet-wide.
  • Mainline Performance - Yes, similar speed, range, and seat-adjusted fuel burn.
  • Mainline Capabilities - Full fuel, pax, and bags on most routes, including such "regional" staples as MSP-YVR and JFK-DFW.
  • Flown on a coast-to-coast network - Yes, including the US & Canada's largest cities in all four corners, I often fly coast-to-coast in a single day. It's a "regional" airplane only if North America is a "region."
  • Will they stick around for 20-25 years? Well, that obviously remains to be seen as was pointed out, but 5 years in they're still quite reliable, far more than when we got them, and DAL obviously likes them enough to give you guys an early contract for 70 more. I'd think they stay around a long time unless you guys outsource 100-120-seaters, you might be able to get them retired early in that case! :D
So the only other thing I could have typed that was uninformed, innaccurate, or foolish is that not many DAL guys included more outsourced replacement jets in their wish list. You're right, I'm not DAL (just carry your pax)... I only know about a dozen or so DAL pilots and only carry 2 or 3 DAL guys on my jumpseat each week, and DALPA never released the survey results, so I don't know what the pilot group wanted. Perhaps most pilots actually were in lock-step with DALPA and were all for the greater outsourcing of mainline-capable airplanes. I gave the pilot group the benefit of the doubt. Funny to get accused of being too optimistic about the DAL pilot group.

Actually, our very first contract becomes amendable later this month, so we're in the process of doing just that. Unfortunately it seems that somebody saddled us with mandatory baseball-style arbitration clause...I forget who at the moment...but it almost seems like they didn't want us to negotiate a solidly improved contract. :rolleyes: We'll give it the ole college try regardless! :D

No, I didn't forget that my presence here drives you (shiznit) crazy, it's just about the only thing keeping me around what with the absence of underboob and all the rumors being depressing ones. But hey, I'll actually agree to leave you to your own forum the minute I stop seeing DAL pilots posting in the CAL/UAL and AA and various regional forums.


The total number of 76 seats jets in the category you mentioned was reduced in the new contract not increased as you claim. The company can have more total 70 and 76 seat jets combined but few 76 seat large RJ's then the old contract potentially allowed. The number of allowed 76 seaters did not increase by 70 airframes as you post.

Gomerglideslope 11-06-2012 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1288515)
........So the only other thing I could have typed that was uninformed, innaccurate, or foolish is that not many DAL guys included more outsourced replacement jets in their wish list. You're right, I'm not DAL (just carry your pax)... I only know about a dozen or so DAL pilots and only carry 2 or 3 DAL guys on my jumpseat each week, and DALPA never released the survey results, so I don't know what the pilot group wanted. Perhaps most pilots actually were in lock-step with DALPA and were all for the greater outsourcing of mainline-capable airplanes. I gave the pilot group the benefit of the doubt. Funny to get accused of being too optimistic about the DAL pilot group.

Actually you do not carry our pax, you carry your own pax, and the number of outsourced jets has been reduced. I'm not certain if most pilots are in "lock step" with DALPA, but they overwhelmingly support DALPA, and supported the latest TA by a wide margin.

DeadHead 11-06-2012 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1288471)
It has - a while ago I couldn't even get a search to work with Firefox, now it's got all sorts of stuff. Could you PM me if you get email working on your iPhone?

Sure thing. I've gotten as far as having to set it up from a "company computer" ( one that is tied in directly to the network). I'm gonna try it next to I'm at work, see if I bet anywhere.

NuGuy 11-06-2012 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1288469)
Hope the mods can see through this post and realize it is about economics, not politics ...

Given that hurricane Sandy may have provided a last minute campaign boost to the incumbent and robbed the challenger of valuable media opportunities; then forecasts are that GDP will be 1.25 to 1.5% higher due to economic certainty as well as continued income re-distribution to segments of our economy where those payments are instantly spent (as opposed to saved).

Anyone have any idea if Delta might have plans for a slightly better than expected 2013, which might mean a couple 757's sticking around with a few DC9's providing needed capacity? Or, is the current displacement malaise which lies over Atlanta like thick smog not likely to be blown out as a result of hurricane Sandy?

As a precaution, I'm locking in interest rates today.

The polling places around me were busier than I've seen them in years, and people normally don't go through the hassle of waiting in line to vote for the status quo. I overheard more than one person say "I don't care about the rest, I'm just here to vote for president".

Make of it what you want, in a totally non-partisan, a-political sort of way, of course.

Nu

Too Tall 11-06-2012 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1288506)
What category are you speaking about. There are expected to be major weather issues tomorrow with the possible closure of LGA and JFK due to high winds. It would be smart to insure you have a lot of reserves at least in ATL and DTW.

DC9B ATL, we hardly ever fly out of the South East. Doubt we will see snow, wind or major weather events in SAV or BHM. Wouldn't be surprised if that is what scheduling was thinking though.


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