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If I remember correctly, in the multi-page book they put out with Contract 2012 goals, holiday pay was one of them. So, somewhere there was input that it was desired - it just didn't make it into the contract.

We need to re-pursue this next contract. There wouldn't be nearly the stress on the reserve system, slips, sick, if guys could bid to fly trips for holidays and reimbursed accordingly. Like Timbo pointed out, we're the only employee group who doesn't get paid more for working on holidays. Where's the "me too" in that?

Also, night pay, please.

nwaf16dude

11-21-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1296852)

That's why they were hiring in the summer of 2010. So I guess that when I get robo-calls every day on my days off, then hiring should be commencing? Probably a decent measure. :D

I got a couple of Robo-calls today, which I really didn't expect because my category is over-manned. Turned out they were just notifications of my X-day move request for next month being approved. They just turned on phase 2 of the auto-notification program. We're leaping into the 90's, tech wise.

PilotFrog

11-21-2012 02:07 PM

FMLA is also NOT paid.

dc10guy

11-21-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1296712)

Yes, it does. Here is relevant part of the implementation schedule:

Effective January 1, 2013:
o Elimination of 75% pay for sick leave and the associated rolling three-year bank
o Requirement to verify individual sick leave occurrence that is 15 days or longer
o Ability for a pilot who returns from disability and who has exhausted his sick leave hours for the current sick leave year to elect to transfer up to 50 hours from the subsequent sick leave year accrual

There are more items under sick leave but this one answers your question.

Denny

Is there anyway to get your sick time back if you are out on OJI and burn your sicktime? It seems like a big penalty if you can't for an OJI injury.

Pineapple Guy

11-21-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1296831)

Unless one is unable to perform their duties due to not meeting the criteria of the IMSAFE checklist.

WRONG. If you fail to meet the criteria of the IMSAFE checklist, the FARs prohibit you from legally operating the aircraft. It does NOT mean Delta is obligated to PAY you. Delta's obligation falls under the PWA, and has been explained in other posts.

Pineapple Guy

11-21-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 1296839)

Virtually every professional non-pilot I know is able to use personal sick time to care for an unwell family member. Maybe it's time we lobby to be able to do the same?

I agree 100%, and HAVE lobbied my reps for this for the past 16 years, ever since we got rid of Authorized Personal Leave, which used to be in the Delta contract. Unfortunately, my view has been in the minority, as we've yet to get anything like that back. Thus, I abide by the contract, and if I'M sick, I call in sick; but if a family member is sick, I either personal drop or swap, or fly the trip. Which sucks, for those of us who don't abuse sick leave by calling in sick for a family member's illness in clear violation of the contract.:mad::mad:

sailingfun

11-21-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dc10guy (Post 1296992)

Is there anyway to get your sick time back if you are out on OJI and burn your sicktime? It seems like a big penalty if you can't for an OJI injury.

Sick leave regenerates on 1 June. In your situation you need to contact Dalpa and speak with a benefits person. There are several aspects in your situation. It should have been the first call you made. Hopefully it's not to late to get the best outcome.

Pineapple Guy

11-21-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1296971)

FMLA is also NOT paid.

But if you move your vacation into the FMLA period, the vacation WILL be.

Scoop

11-21-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1296822)

1. Calling in sick is illegal, so not an option, unless you have no integrity.
2. FMLA is available, and you can move unused vacation into the time period to get paid.

Not exactly correct PG. States have different versions of Family Medical Leave. This is legal in California (CA KIN Care) and the LAX CPO and the DAL schedulers are very familiar with it. You call and sick and tell them its for your spouse (try to remain calm PG :) ). It works like regular sick leave (full pay) with the added bonus that you even get to keep your integrity.

Not sure where your are based but you may want to check out the FMLA or see if your state has a similar law. Good luck.

Scoop

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