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ShortBus_Driver 11-23-2012 07:53 PM

Are the following pilot domicles all still correct as listed here on the ALPC website?

ATL
CVG
DTW
LAX
MSP
NYC
SEA
SLC

Would someone please rank these domiciles in order of size?

Thanks!

Scoop 11-23-2012 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1297988)
Flew from MIA to LAX today and landed precisely in our "arrival window." Our scheduled gate was 67. As I was braking and exiting the high speed, we got a gate change ACARS message to a gate that was occupied by a Frontier jet. Our gate, 67, was empty at the time. We called the ramp and asked why our gate had been changed to one that was occupied from one that was currently empty. The answer: there's an inbound Alaska flight which will now get our original gate. OK, how about another gate since Frontier isn't scheduled to push for 30 minutes? No, a Great Lakes Brasilia, inbound, gets the other empty one.

So, a 737-800 packed to the gills and on time has to wait for an inbound Alaska flight and a Great Lakes Brasilia that aren't even here yet.

Glad we can be so accommodating to other airlines pax. Our Delta pax weren't so happy burning on the taxiway for 40 minutes. I'm sure marketing has an answer but it sure doesn't seem like we're doing right by OUR passengers.


Hey Buzz,

Sounds like LAX standard.:eek: Have a good weekend.

Scoop

buzzpat 11-23-2012 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1298028)
Hey Buzz,

Sounds like LAX standard.:eek: Have a good weekend.

Scoop

You too Scoop! Flew with one of our really good guys!

forgot to bid 11-23-2012 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1298000)
Would this be worth an FCR write-up to report a stupid decision as viewed from the front line? Maybe someone higher up will exercise some common sense and fix this for future crews.

FCR? From Buzz? It might have some meaning from Buzz since he can schmooze with the girls on FNC.

But as a Captain once told me- you're an FO, nobody cares what your FCR says. :D

probably true.

Scoop 11-23-2012 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by ShortBus_Driver (Post 1298025)
Are the following pilot domicles all still correct as listed here on the ALPC website?

ATL
CVG
DTW
LAX
MSP
NYC
SEA
SLC

Would someone please rank these domiciles in order of size?

Thanks!

Yes. As far as size goes this is just a guess:

ATL
DTW
NYC
MSP
SLC

The rest are probably all about the same with lots of talk about CVG being the next to get the axe.

Scoop

Fly782 11-23-2012 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by ShortBus_Driver (Post 1298025)
Are the following pilot domicles all still correct as listed here on the ALPC website?

ATL
CVG
DTW
LAX
MSP
NYC
SEA
SLC

Would someone please rank these domiciles in order of size?

Thanks!

Guessing...
ATL
DTW
NYC
MSP
SLC
SEA
LAX
CVG

ShortBus_Driver 11-23-2012 08:12 PM

Thanks guys for the above domicile info!


Also......


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1297932)
If we shrink another 4-5% in the next 4 years that should cover those losses.


What about the new rest requirements taking affect? Won't that require Delta to staff more pilots like at most other airlines?

buzzpat 11-23-2012 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1298032)
FCR? From Buzz? It might have some meaning from Buzz since he can schmooze with the girls on FNC.

But as a Captain once told me- you're an FO, nobody cares what your FCR says. :D

probably true.

I always put a little "oomph" in my FCRs. They may not care...but they read them. ;)

80ktsClamp 11-23-2012 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by ShortBus_Driver (Post 1298037)
Thanks guys for the above domicile info!


Also......




What about the new rest requirements taking affect? Won't that require Delta to staff more pilots like at most other airlines?

Our contract is already as or more restrictive than the new rest rules for the most part... I'm hearing 300 or so pilots?

forgot to bid 11-23-2012 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by ShortBus_Driver (Post 1298025)
Are the following pilot domicles all still correct as listed here on the ALPC website?

ATL
CVG
DTW
LAX
MSP
NYC
SEA
SLC

Would someone please rank these domiciles in order of size?

Thanks!

I know you're trying to do some research so let me give you a bit of a feel for what seniority buys here.

Let's say you're 4% from the bottom or bidding around 96%. What does that buy you? (using current category list and not the projected one off our last system bid)

Well, you'd be a March 2008 hire for one.

You would hold:
  • SLC A320 B and be around 90%
  • NYC M88 B and be around 38%
  • NYC 7ER B and be around 87%
  • NYC 737 B and be around 90%
  • NYC A320 B and be around 53%
  • MSP M88 B and be around 78%
  • MSP 320 B and be around 93%
  • DTW DC9 B and be around 50%
  • DTW 7ER B and be around 99.6%
  • DTW 320 B and be around 84%
  • CVG M88 B and be around 85%
  • CVG 737 B and be around 97%
  • ATL M88 B and be around 90%
  • ATL DC9 B and be around 29%
  • ATL 737 B and be around 99%



You wouldn't hold the following categories right now:
  • Any Captain (A) position
  • SLC 7ER FO (B)
  • SLC 73N B, almost, but a few numbers back.
  • SEA 7ER B
  • SEA A330 B
  • NYC 767-400 B (referred to here as the 765)
  • MSP 7ER B
  • LAX 7ER B
  • LAX 737 B
  • DTW 777 B
  • DTW 747 B
  • DTW 330 B
  • ATL 7ER B
  • ATL 777 B
  • ATL 767-400 B
  • ATL 767 DOMESTIC B
  • ATL 330 B
  • ATL 320 B


I think I got it all.

We have about 11,805 pilots and 1,100 are out due to sick leave, furlough or military leave. And to answer your question,
  • ATL: 777, 330, 764, 767/7ER, 737, 320, M88 and DC9.
  • CVG: 737, M88
  • DTW: 777, 747, 7ER, 330, 320, DC9
  • LAX: 7ER, 737
  • MSP: 7ER, 320, M88
  • NYC: 764, 7ER, 320, 737 and M88
  • SEA: 7ER and 330
  • SLC: 330, 320, 737

Keep in mind though, things will be a lot different when hiring resumes and retirements kick in. There are people learning to fly right now that'll be within a few % points on the list from pilots already flying here. I can point to a 2001 and 2007 hire where that's the case and there's only a 1% difference between them. But look at other parts of the list and excluding differences with the merger, 1% doesn't elicit that much of a difference in timing.


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