Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1298049)

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1298049)

I know you're trying to do some research so let me give you a bit of a feel for what seniority buys here.

Let's say you're 4% from the bottom or bidding around 96%. What does that buy you? (using current category list and not the projected one off our last system bid)

Well, you'd be a March 2008 hire for one.

You would hold:

• SLC A320 B and be around 90%
• NYC M88 B and be around 38%
• NYC 7ER B and be around 87%
• NYC 737 B and be around 90%
• NYC A320 B and be around 53%
• MSP M88 B and be around 78%
• MSP 320 B and be around 93%
• DTW DC9 B and be around 50%
• DTW 7ER B and be around 99.6%
• DTW 320 B and be around 84%
• CVG M88 B and be around 85%
• CVG 737 B and be around 97%
• ATL M88 B and be around 90%
• ATL DC9 B and be around 29%
• ATL 737 B and be around 99%

You wouldn't hold the following categories right now:

• Any Captain (A) position
• SLC 7ER FO (B)
• SLC 73N B, almost, but a few numbers back.
• SEA 7ER B
• SEA A330 B
• NYC 767-400 B (referred to here as the 765)
• MSP 7ER B
• LAX 7ER B
• LAX 737 B
• DTW 777 B
• DTW 747 B
• DTW 330 B
• ATL 7ER B
• ATL 777 B
• ATL 767-400 B
• ATL 767 DOMESTIC B
• ATL 330 B
• ATL 320 B

I think I got it all.

We have about 11,805 pilots and 1,100 are out due to sick leave, furlough or military leave. And to answer your question,

• ATL: 777, 330, 764, 767/7ER, 737, 320, M88 and DC9.
• CVG: 737, M88
• DTW: 777, 747, 7ER, 330, 320, DC9
• LAX: 7ER, 737
• MSP: 7ER, 320, M88
• NYC: 764, 7ER, 320, 737 and M88
• SEA: 7ER and 330
• SLC: 330, 320, 737

Keep in mind though, things will be a lot different when hiring resumes and retirements kick in. There are people learning to fly right now that'll be within a few % points on the list from pilots already flying here. I can point to a 2001 and 2007 hire where that's the case and there's only a 1% difference between them. But look at other parts of the list and excluding differences with the merger, 1% doesn't elicit that much of a difference in timing.

Originally Posted by crewdawg52 (Post 1298093)

This is pretty close to the projected requirements of pilots for each base for May '13.

ATL: 3544
DTW: 1770
NYC: 1397
MSP: 1302
SLC: 552
SEA: 489
CVG: 251

Originally Posted by 76drvr (Post 1298068)

SLC 330?

I think you mean 7ER, 320, 737

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1298120)

What...no LAX?

BUZZ!! Look out! :eek::D

Originally Posted by rahc (Post 1298071)

After the last AE for FOs*, ATL would get more junior and MSP more senior...... a person 2 months after your hire date would not be able to hold MSP anymore. People were being displaced from DTW and MSP to ATL.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1298128)

I think CVG is toast, I'm surprised it's not closed already, but where will they put that time, that's the question. I was displaced out of there in 1993, when DL sold the DC9's and gave all that flying to Com Air.

What's left there? Just MD88's and 737's?