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georgetg 12-08-2012 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 1307317)
Does it matter? I couldn't care less about the reliability and efficiency of outsourced airframes.

It does matter, because that is often raised as a reason why the EMB isn't at mainline...
I would rather have DAL purchase the new jets at mainline and get the leased ones at DCI.
I'd rather have the 76-seater at mainline, than outsourced.

But I guess you are right, who cares...
Better have it at DCI.

Cheers
George

Enemyofthestate 12-08-2012 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1307448)
I'm trying to find a route map of all the flying under Skywest and Expressjet, but no luck so far.

so just imagine the above coex/asa map with these:

http://www.airlineroutemaps.com/USA/...t_Airlines.gif

AND...

http://www.airlineroutemaps.com/USA/...t_Airlines.gif

And for juxtaposition Delta Air Lines mainline route map 1991. Sorry no route lines, but I think it's still clear enough

http://airchive.com/galleries/6621.jpg

sailingfun 12-08-2012 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Humboldt (Post 1307418)
Are there Delta pilots that live in Europe and commute? I was thinking that 5 years down the road that my family wouldn't mind renting an apartment somewhere in Europe, for a year or so, and living there. Is it impossible to commute back to the states if you are in a category that has one or two trips per month?

Do you know any Delta pilots that live (even temporarily) in Europe?

There are several living in Europe. It can certainly be done. You have to get a Long term stay visa which depending on the country could be difficult. There is also the tax issue. You will not be able to claim expatriot status and will owe all US federal income taxes. You might also be taxed in the new country. Do you research carefully and keep in mind the commuting expenses which are not tax deductible. The UK can get very expensive in that regard.

JungleBus 12-08-2012 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1307483)
It does matter, because that is often raised as a reason why the EMB isn't at mainline...
I would rather have DAL purchase the new jets at mainline and get the leased ones at DCI.
I'd rather have the 76-seater at mainline, than outsourced.

But I guess you are right, who cares...
Better have it at DCI.

I think ya'll are on the same page, george. He's just saying, if it's going to be outsourced, he'd rather it not be a superior product the passengers love. I agree, the more complaints about DCI that DAL gets, the better for DAL pilots. It's one reason I felt the 50-for-76 swap in the TA was a sucker's deal, regardless of it slightly reducing overall seats at DCI. It increased the economically viable, passenger-desirable seats at DCI.

georgetg 12-08-2012 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1307489)
I think ya'll are on the same page, george. He's just saying, if it's going to be outsourced, he'd rather it not be a superior product the passengers love. I agree, the more complaints about DCI that DAL gets, the better for DAL pilots. It's one reason I felt the 50-for-76 swap in the TA was a sucker's deal, regardless of it slightly reducing overall seats at DCI. It increased the economically viable, passenger-desirable seats at DCI.

We are, we just differ on why flying is outsourced.

IMO it's not because the outsourced flying is superior to Delta when it comes to service and reliability, but because it's lower cost.

Columbia said it right:


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1307368)
Bingo-apparently George wants whats best for the regional pax flown by regional pilots.

For my company I want all service to be great and reliable.
If poor service and passenger comfort were any criteria of outsourcing, some of the DCI providers would be history...
Quite frankly, as a Delta pilot I'd want the outsourced flying to be cost ineffective.

Cheers
George

FmrFreightDog 12-08-2012 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1307483)
It does matter, because that is often raised as a reason why the EMB isn't at mainline...
I would rather have DAL purchase the new jets at mainline and get the leased ones at DCI.
I'd rather have the 76-seater at mainline, than outsourced.

But I guess you are right, who cares...
Better have it at DCI.

Cheers
George

I see your point. Sorry for being snarky. Side effect of my dear first born son bringing the flu home from school.

georgetg 12-08-2012 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 1307514)
I see your point. Sorry for being snarky. Side effect of my dear first born son bringing the flu home from school.

No worries. My daughter started getting up at 3:30 this last week and proceeds to wake up her brother...FUN!

Cheers
George

Rather B Fishin 12-08-2012 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1307489)
I think ya'll are on the same page, george. He's just saying, if it's going to be outsourced, he'd rather it not be a superior product the passengers love. I agree, the more complaints about DCI that DAL gets, the better for DAL pilots. It's one reason I felt the 50-for-76 swap in the TA was a sucker's deal, regardless of it slightly reducing overall seats at DCI. It increased the economically viable, passenger-desirable seats at DCI.

A 25% reduction in block hours is a "slight reduction"? The guys who voted yes are "suckers "? I can see you are going to be well liked when get the chance to flow over.......:rolleyes:

Denny Crane 12-08-2012 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1307520)
No worries. My daughter started getting up at 3:30 this last week and proceeds to wake up her brother...FUN!

Cheers
George

Hi George! I don't have to worry about that any more, my youngest started a WSU this last fall. No, I don't have to worry anymore, he just broke his left arm (he's lefthanded like dad:)) the week before finals!!:eek: Well I should say his karate instructor broke it.... So I get to fly over to Pullman and drive him back on either thursday or friday. Whoopee!!:rolleyes:

Oh yeah might has well throw this in too! I start my 6th, yes 6th, day of shortcall at 1500 today, the 8th of Dec..... That's with returning from a trip on the first and 24 hours off given by CS.... :^)

Denny

Denny Crane 12-08-2012 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin (Post 1307526)
A 25% reduction in block hours is a "slight reduction"? The guys who voted yes are "suckers "? I can see you are going to be well liked when get the chance to flow over.......:rolleyes:

I suspect he will "shut up and color" for a year or so.......:)

Denny


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