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dalad 01-27-2013 12:09 PM

A question for the gallery, if we are commuting in uniform can we use KCM? I flew with an FO that insisted that we had to screen. I thought that just applied to the ATL cheesegrater.

cni187 01-27-2013 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1340189)
A question for the gallery, if we are commuting in uniform can we use KCM? I flew with an FO that insisted that we had to screen. I thought that just applied to the ATL cheesegrater.

Q. What constitutes “in uniform” for using a KCM access point?
A. TSA’s requirement is that pilots be “in uniform” to use a KCM access point. This requirement has been used by TSA for years to grant certain accommodations to pilots at security screening checkpoints. Pilots should ensure that they are appropriately attired in a uniform that meets their company’s standards to help TSA screeners do their jobs quickly and expedite their passage through the access point.

Right off the KCM website

Elvis90 01-27-2013 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1340189)
A question for the gallery, if we are commuting in uniform can we use KCM? I flew with an FO that insisted that we had to screen. I thought that just applied to the ATL cheesegrater.

The only requirement is to be in uniform. If I'm commuting home, I use KCM since use of the cheese grater for other than company business is prohibited. KCM for me is simpler than the cheese grater (one pass-through vice two, plus no foot shuffle in the grater as you two-step through).

cni187 01-27-2013 12:19 PM

http://snapwidget.com/view/?id=37831...3#.UQWaDujXafA

The 49ers got a whale to the big game. Is that you Carl? Someone post some pics!!

Roadkill 01-27-2013 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1340189)
A question for the gallery, if we are commuting in uniform can we use KCM? I flew with an FO that insisted that we had to screen. I thought that just applied to the ATL cheesegrater.

Yep, KCM has nothing to do with Delta or it's "company business" policies for the cheese grater. You ONLY have to be in uniform.

Columbia 01-27-2013 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1340197)
SnapWidget | On our way to New Orleans. #QuestforSix #SB47

The 49ers got a whale to the big game. Is that you Carl? Someone post some pics!!

Guys look like a bunch of hobos. What ever happened to traveling in coat and tie? The NBA does.

cpberry1 01-27-2013 01:18 PM

The official word...as I was given it
 

Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1340189)
A question for the gallery, if we are commuting in uniform can we use KCM? I flew with an FO that insisted that we had to screen. I thought that just applied to the ATL cheesegrater.

The only requirement, whether commuting or other non-revving, is that you have contact with the TSA personnel and they have the opportunity to search your stuff. When non-revving/commuting the cheese grater doesn't afford them that option directly so it's use is forbidden, officially. KCM gives them that search option so it is allowed, as long as in uniform, as stated previously. Searched out using my union dues by my representatives...

sailingfun 01-27-2013 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1339988)
Sorry Sailing, I have to disagree on that. UAL has had numerous breakdowns in res and operationally. You couldn't be more wrong about our issues in comparison.

Well we were last in on time performance which is the single most important metric for a airline. We also had computer and other problems. Operationally UAL might be ahead of us at the same point and time in the merger process.

Sink r8 01-27-2013 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1340154)
... when you consider you're flying for free, it's a good deal.

Ain't none of us flying for free in this industry. It's just collected on Bisous de Mamy2the 15th and 30th/31st insead of when you travel. Besides the prohibitive taxes, and the $50 anniversary gift to Delta, to prove your love.

I di know what you meant, in terms of thise specific passes, but they're still not free.

sailingfun 01-27-2013 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1340189)
A question for the gallery, if we are commuting in uniform can we use KCM? I flew with an FO that insisted that we had to screen. I thought that just applied to the ATL cheesegrater.

KCM is fine to use commuting. You only need to be in uniform. Delta forbids wearing the uniform other then working or to and from work so that eliminates KCM for non rev travel.


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