Just going off the APC pay rate table, but I'd rather get paid $204/hr + 14% DC & 401k contribution, for an effective hourly rate of $232.56, than get paid $216/hr and have a 9.3% matching 401k.

For the record, I don't want SWA work rules and scheduling efficiencies. IMO it would have a terrible impact on staffing.

I agree. .............

But if you had SWA scope most first officers at Delta would be captains right now.

Here is a question, would SWA pilots swap the pay system and rates they have right now with ours?

That's probably a decent question to ask "The Others."

I mean $216 x 79 hours > $204 x 72 hours + 14% and a lot more than what 88/90 pilots get for flying similar sized aircraft on similar routes. They seem to do a lot better than straight rate x hours and some claim have a lot of days off, more than us.

Well, actually, when you have 37 guys on reserve and 4 or 5 of them have 0 hours, 0 short calls and 0 raw scores for the month, that's probably hard to beat. Glad we can have guys in Bucket 3 with others with 0 hours over the same days of availability. But who am I to point that out?

Disregard.

And the same for AA, Us Air, UAL, JB, and Alaska. Except Alaska has zero scope protection. :eek:

Personally, I think it's the culture of the leagues and the culture of the league's players.

Example-Many NBA players threw a fit when the NBA enforced a sideline dresscode. Several stated that the league could not tell them what to wear while they watched the games from the sidelines due to injury. It's only the league that pays them their salary. :rolleyes:

Off Topic: Reserve pay while Sick: Hello all, I am on reserve most months and curious as to how sick pay factors in to the pay equation. Is it ever possible to get payed over the reserve guarantee by calling in sick on your reserve days or do they always prorate the days sick by what the average reserve credit is for a day on call? Someone just told me that the regular pay for the month and the sick pay come out of different "banks" so it is possible to make more on reserve for the month wen you call in sick. I have scoured the PWA in both the Compensation and Scheduling areas and have not found my answer. Any contract gurus that can chime in and clarify this for me would be greatly appreciated.

I'm not in bucket 3, but I did do 5 short calls this month while making it to bucket 2. Sigh. 5 Short calls as a commuter. Sat a total of 3 long call days this month. FWIW, I had most weekends off also. Nice to know someone's sitting long calls.

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Our favorite Mötley Fool contributor is at it again...same message as last week. Spirit is going to crush Delta because they are more flexible. I just don't get why he thinks Delta is so inflexible.

He claims he doesn't have any Delta positions, but he sure sounds like he's shilling for some underwater shorts. One of you smart guys need to go leave some tasty comments on his article.