Meh,...., his wife is hot though.;)

WHEREAS:

• Delta Status Reps are told what to think by "Subject Matter Experts"
• No one represents the input of Delta pilots

LET IT BE RESOLVED

• The Association will hereby purchase Bill Roberts, attorney at law, a photocopier and let everybody else spend a lot more time with their families.
• New dues calculation to be $400,000 for Mr. Roberts and whatever a few boxes of paper cost / 10,600.

* Apologies on a personal level to many men that I respect, admire and like ... but this is the job you signed up for. On a professional level, it is time to act.

Ouch!!
FAA Grounds U.S. Boeing 787 Dreamliner Flights - WSJ.com

I believe it's the Delta fleet commitment in CMR LOA 01-07 and whether wholly owned or not, is irrelevant. The NMB, the RLA, the PWA and the C&BLs don't differentiate between who is wholly owned and who is not with regards to bargaining.

OK... What does this mean?

The purpose isn't to vent, but to discuss current events. This little thing has crept up, a little like Watergate, and seems to be gaining momentum slowly but surely, mostly fed by a lack of info, and pushed along by ineffective diversions.

I can deal with almost anything. Lee screwed up. Lee didn't screw up. The MEC is upset. The MEC is happy. This is on the radar screen, and the MEC is waiting for the February meeting (that's the feedback I'm getting). This is an Administration-MEC issue. This is an old administration vs. new administration issue. This is a meet-and-confer issue. This is a procedural issue. Whatever. Give me a narrative to work with. Have a point that shuts Bar up. Give me something. Just don't get entangled in descriptions of angst and venting. And please don't try to paint these APC'ers descriptions of issues as "venting", then tell us to decide what the issues are.

The issue, the question more specifically, is whether there is a problem. The feedback I got from my rep was fine at the time, but as the clock ticks, the unofficial feedback on APC is off target, and gives the impression of disarray. Meanwhile, it looks like Delta is buying an airline and a half, and setting up to move some pilots onto our seniority list (at the bottom), which makes me wonder if our engagement is still on, and whether Lee or Kingsley runs the Delta pilots' show. All of which all seem like potential issues to me.

Can you work with that, and give me some answers that compute? Even "standby until our next meeting" might work, in the meantime.

Heyas Sink,

You forgot north vs south. That's always good for some mileage, depending on who you talk to.

Nu

I would say wait until your reps discuss the issue and come to a consensus position. Provide them with your concerns in the mean time. I would guess at the latest that they would discuss it at the feb meeting.

All the rest of your post is spitballing what an issue may or may not be.

The Railway Labor Act does:

http://www.nmb.gov/representation/re...ion-manual.pdf26

19.501 Factors Indicating a Single Transportation System
The following are some indicia of a single transportation
system:
(1) published combined schedules or combined routes;
(2) standardized uniforms;
(3) common marketing, markings or insignia;
(4) integrated essential operations such as
scheduling or dispatching;
(5) centralized labor and personnel operations;
(6) combined or common management, corporate
officers, and board of directors;
(7) combined workforce; and,
(8) common or overlapping ownership.

Has a nice ring to it, Nu, and it IS a classic. Sounds better than the inter-regional rivalry concept. More plausible.

Are you admitting the N guys negotiated some sort of side-deal for a former Airlink carrier?;)

I've not seen either "side" take any action.

Why are we so afraid of an attorney who ostensibly works for us?

I'd just like to cross examine him using his own statements from CC Air and Comair.